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 Posted:   Jul 27, 2013 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

This is a strange CD.
I've never heard of Movietrack Classics as a label, in all my years of CD collecting.
The design/style is very similar (copied?) to the old Bay Cities CD's that I own, in typesetting, font etc.
There are no tech credits or album production names and the CD states it was Made in the Czech Republic. I'm guessing it's a boot or one of those dodgy 'authorised within the law of their country' releases that Tsunami and others released back in the day.
I know Varese and TER released it on LP and cassette at the time of the TV series...maybe their license lapsed?
Anyway, the sound quality of it is excellent and the score is pretty good too!
I haven't played it all yet, but I like two of the three styles on offer so far.
The Main Theme is just a bit too close to Land Of Hope & Glory (it's an obvious nod) for me to enjoy on it's own. Far better to me are the mystical Indian sitar/orchestra cues and the tense/action cues that feature some great rhythmic writing. Scott is with the big boys in that regard, his jazz talents lending him the abilities that Williams and Goldsmith often brought to their action scoring. You could almost dance to it!
I will chime back in after a few more listens. But for now, I will let Kari and others hopefully offer their more intelligible thoughts smile

 Posted:   Jul 27, 2013 - 11:14 AM   
 By:   Dorian   (Member)

There have been a couple of releases on this label some years ago (I have Barry's The Ipcress File coupled with Bennett's Billion Dollar Brain on this label, another release was Trevor Jones' Last Place on Earth). They are not legit and were produced by a certain man from the U. K. who was interested in having these scores (his personal favorites) on CD as no label seemed to be going to release them. He produced a small quantity of each and was selling them for a mere couple of pounds to anyone who contacted him and asked for them. But it's been a long time (10 years or so).

Unfortunately I don't know the John Scott score but given the high reputation of the composer and your words I'm sure it's good. Let's see if it will ever be released officialy.

 Posted:   Jul 27, 2013 - 11:28 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Amazon has a CD of Mountbatten liisted on the Jackal label. Goes for £18 +

 Posted:   Jul 27, 2013 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   Kari Tuhkanen   (Member)

I don´t have this on CD other than the CD-R I transfered from vinyl.

But the music is wonderful; it happens that I listened it just a week ago. And as much as the Mountbatten Theme reminds me of Elgar´s music, I have nevertheless enjoyed it through the years. The farewell music at the end is just as Elgarian and even more lovelier. I also like the way he uses the sitar as part of his orchestrations, which are always such a delight to listen to. And the aggressive bits in between are some of Scott´s most violent outbursts of his career. As I have said before, it´s a kind of music he really enjoys writing, his true musical persona as he has stated, hard as it is to believe, considering his marvellous gift for exquisite melody.

Mountbatten is one of those "Oriental" scores of Scott´s (King of the Wind, The Long Duel, The Deceivers, The Second Jungle Book) that he has always been particularly inspired to write. I´d like to take the opportunity here to remind you of one of his most sumptuous scores in similar vein, namely the 1986 miniseries Harem, which has unfortunately never been issued on CD. I consider it an absolutely enchanting piece of work; the main theme is extremely sensual, even erotic affair, something you don´t hear that often from Scott (Antony and Cleopatra is a notable exception). This is one of those scores to die for, ravishingly beautiful Scheherazade-like music. It´s available on DVD though, fortunately.

Great point Kev, reminding of the jazz influences in Scott´s, Goldsmith´s and Williams´ music. I don´t think it´s a coincidence that all these great composers have a jazz background, something I have always regarded with great interest.

By the way, don´t be too modest in your abilities to evaluate the music, Kev. You´re obviously a man of great taste. wink

 Posted:   Jul 27, 2013 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

I like it. Similar feel to "The Scarlet Tunic", which is one of my favorite Scott scores (despite the unwelcome and lengthy section of standard military bugle calls placed ridiculously right in the middle of the Tunic CD). The Main Title of Mountbatten opens with a motif that also features strongly in the Tunic score.
The sound of my Movietracks CD is very good – better than some of Scott's JOS CDs. The packaging reminds me of Scott's early JOS releases. I'd always assumed (perhaps mistakenly) that this was released by Scott himself. I was told by the person who gave me a copy of it that the CD had been sent to him many years ago, at no cost, by Scott personally.

 Posted:   Jul 27, 2013 - 2:05 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

Amazon has a CD of Mountbatten liisted on the Jackal label. Goes for £18 +

Actually that is an LP. It's listed on the non-official John Scott website, along with the Movietracks CD:

 Posted:   Jul 27, 2013 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

It's listed on the non-official John Scott website, along with the Movietracks CD

I just checked that site and saw a reference to a Scott score for the Fairbanks version of "Robin Hood" which was performed by the RPO live to film last year. I hadn't heard of that. I bet it's terrific. Anyone heard of any plans to release a CD?

 Posted:   Jul 27, 2013 - 4:30 PM   
 By:   Kari Tuhkanen   (Member)

I don´t think Robin Hood has been recorded at all. It was composed in 2006-2007 and has so far been performed live two times accompanying the picture (in Nottingham premiere and London last year).

Scott said in recent interview: ‘I didn’t want to be compared with Korngold. But then I thought, I’m not going to copy Korngold. I’m just going to write a score that I believe in...’ ‘With a silent film the music never stops, so it was a relentless process...´ ` It’s a swashbuckler. There’s adventure music, baddy music and romance.’

Yes, a CD would be nice.

 Posted:   Jul 28, 2013 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Kari Tuhkanen   (Member)

From John Scott´s own article, Robin Hood: The Silent Treatment (2007):

The main themes contained in the score are: (1) The crusader´s theme, a theme of adventure and heroism which relates to King Richard. (2) Maid Marion´s theme, the romantic element expressing her longing for the man who has captured her heart. (3) Prince John´s theme conveying the suffering and brutal torture inflicted on the people during King Richard´s absence. (4) Robin Hood´s theme, a swashbuckling theme full of humour, daring and adventure. This theme only truly emerges in the second half of the film when the Earl of Huntingdon assumes the full character of Robin Hood.

Doesnt´t it whet your appetite? And when I add that the film is over two hours long with continuous music, it pretty much makes you ravenous!

 Posted:   Jul 28, 2013 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

That Robin Hood preview sounds amazing!
I sure hope some of the soundtrack labels have new and/or cool re-releases or old LP's (Rocket To The Moon, The Whistle Blower) in the pipeline. One can hope.

 Posted:   Jul 28, 2013 - 12:04 PM   
 By:   Kari Tuhkanen   (Member)

It´s good to live in hope. Harem, Robin Hood (1922/2006-07), Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1920/2002-03, his first of two silent film scores), those numerous nature documentaries he´s done through the decades (Jacques Cousteau, Jane Goodall, Hugo van Lawick, IMAX), The Long Duel, Hennessy, England Made Me, Return of the Saint (TV series from the 70´s, he did all the 24 episodes) to name some of the most delectable.

 Posted:   Jul 28, 2013 - 12:43 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

You've certainly whetted my appetite with Harem, Kari.
Your description makes it sound mesmerising.
Hopefully one day in the (near) future we will be discussing a CD of it right here! smile

 Posted:   Jul 28, 2013 - 3:52 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I listened to a suite on Youtube; not as good as was written here, but it was plesant enough. There was one cue I think could be substituted for the Throne Room sequence in "Star Wars: Episode IV".

 Posted:   Jul 28, 2013 - 4:27 PM   
 By:   Kari Tuhkanen   (Member)

You've certainly whetted my appetite with Harem, Kari.
Your description makes it sound mesmerising.
Hopefully one day in the (near) future we will be discussing a CD of it right here! smile

Further, the story takes place in turn of the century Ottoman Empire and portrays a young American heiress (beautiful Nancy Travis), who gets kidnapped to a Sultan´s harem, and her education in the art of seduction. Throw in an insurrection and some desert landscapes and you get the impression what kind of music to expect. Pretty heady stuff.

By the way Kev, have you finally given in on your chronological progress of Scott´s career as you seem to have jumped from The Final Countdown to Mountbatten? wink

 Posted:   Jul 28, 2013 - 4:48 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Aye Kari, I seem to have developed a slight wobble in my chrono-plan, but I plan on getting back
on track asap! There's just too much Scotty goodness before me to deal with. I feel like a
kid in a sweet shop, laden with pennies! smile

 Posted:   Aug 4, 2013 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Upon a much closer listen, it is quite obvious this release is a straight LP transfer.
One can hear some crackles and the usual revolution noises, especially when listened to through headphones. It's a pretty good LP transfer, as they go and many other releases have utilised this technique before, when the original tapes haven't been available.
But there is certainly room for improvement, so I hope Varese (if they still hold the rights) can rustle up a better sounding release, maybe with some extra tracks...hold the mayo...and a side order of Tourist Trap by Pino Donaggio, while I'm ordering! smile

 Posted:   Jan 18, 2016 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Even though I already have this Movie Tracks (dodgy) issue, I am gonna buy the new Varese issue for (hopefully) some improvement in sound. Plus, it will be nice to have the original LP packaging. I'm not that 'into' the Movie Tracks design work.
The score is pretty good, although the obvious classical British bits are a bit distracting.
The Indian-fused stuff is great and, as noted above, you can dance to the action licks!

 Posted:   Jan 27, 2016 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I'm playing my Varese edition right now and the sound is grand.
It's much better than the boot(?) edition from Movietrack Classics.
I'm glad Varese chose to issue both John Scott scores they still had hold of.
While expansions might have been nice, the albums for this and Whistle Blower are more than adequate and make for fine listening experiences.

 Posted:   Jan 27, 2016 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Mine arrived and it sounds fantastic.

 Posted:   Jan 27, 2016 - 9:49 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Ditto. Superb sound on this one! Terrific John Scott score!

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