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 Posted:   Aug 19, 2013 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

I couldn't find any threads about this score.
As far as I know, it's Elfman's ONLY completely electronic feature film score.
It's quite industrial sounding, but does have some resonant piano keyboard moments to offset the cold sparse-sounding mood.
It's a unique score in the Elfman canon and one I would like to hear opinions of from others here.

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2013 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I like this one quite a bit! In general (and I'm sure there are exceptions), I prefer my synthy scores to be percussive, like this one is. To me (and before anybody objects, this is only to me), it plays to the strengths of the form, as opposed to long synth melodies that seem to be trying to emulate an orchestra, and typically sound thin to me.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2013 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Here's an earlier thread on film and score. I give my own thoughts within:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=16754&forumID=1&archive=1

By the way, I LOVE this one!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 4:17 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

Damn!
The search engine here baffles me!
I checked the word 'WISDOM', plus about 6 pages of 'Danny Elfman' threads and also tried that google FSM trick, but....zilch!
Well done Thor, you da Search Engine Man.

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 4:21 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I entered this into Google and this thread and the other, came right up:

site:filmscoremonthly.com Wisdon Elfman


You put site: before a site you want to search.

Words or phrases in quotation marks, like "Danny Elfman", and a minus symbol before terms you want excluded, like: -Elfman

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2013 - 7:05 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Wisdom sounds like a great score. I have to buy the CD by the way...

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2013 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

I didn't know about that google 'site' thing. Thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Saw the movie this week, this thread sparked my interest smile

The movie is so so, but the score is definitely out there; very dominant synth and percussion; I can't say I liked all of it, but there were some standout tracks and definitely had a unique style to it. The somber piano theme was nice.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 12:11 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I can't remember the film at all (did Estevez direct it?) although I must have watched it on video back in the day.
I like the score for what it is, a Danny Elfman synth score which, as noted above, uses the percussive elements in the forefront.
The piano theme is cool too and offers some respite from the pounding nature of the score.
That opening of the last cue on the CD always reminds me of a Smiths song that featured some ace Johnny Marr guitar work (can't remember the title of it).

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2017 - 10:01 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I finally ordered the album, on vinyl. Will be my first (and last?) Elfman score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2017 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   William R.   (Member)

I remember an interview where I believe Elfman said he didn't use any sequencers in this. If true, his fingers must have been pretty sore at the end of the recording, give how many repetitive figures there are in the score.

Very cool little score. I agree with the comment above praising the percussion-oriented approach, which was a good way to work around the limitations of the 1986 technology. I also like that even with the synths, it carries many hallmarks of Elfman's style at the time.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2017 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

First Breath, I know you like your scores heavily toasted on the synth side, so you should check out his recent score for THE CIRCLE. I imagine you will like it.

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2017 - 11:47 AM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

First Breath, I know you like your scores heavily toasted on the synth side, so you should check out his recent score for THE CIRCLE. I imagine you will like it.

Just what I was about to say.

It's been forever since I saw this film, but the cues on Music for a Darkened Theatre V1 are intriguing.

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2017 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

First Breath, I know you like your scores heavily toasted on the synth side, so you should check out his recent score for THE CIRCLE. I imagine you will like it.

Listening to the clips now. Sounding interesting. Cool that Elfman dives into electronic music again.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2017 - 7:47 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I finally ordered the album, on vinyl. Will be my first (and last?) Elfman score.

About time! Vinyl sounds cool, although I've never been into that myself (not when it was popular, and not when it was re-popularized). I think I could mention a handful of Elfman albums and tracks that you would like; especially if you're into more pop and rock-oriented affairs and not just electronic.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2017 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I finally ordered the album, on vinyl. Will be my first (and last?) Elfman score.

About time! Vinyl sounds cool, although I've never been into that myself (not when it was popular, and not when it was re-popularized). I think I could mention a handful of Elfman albums and tracks that you would like; especially if you're into more pop and rock-oriented affairs and not just electronic.


I bought the vinyl because it was a bit cheaper than CD. But that said, I'm starting to get quite a few vinyl soundtracks now. Most of them from discogs.com.

Sure, I like pop/rock-stuff too.

I also like The Next Three Days (and The Kingdom?) by Elfman. Plus the aforementioned The Circle.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2017 - 5:18 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yeah, the post-rock vibes of THE NEXT THREE DAYS and THE KINGDOM were among those I would recommend.

Others include MIDNIGHT RUN, DEAD PRESIDENTS, NACHO LIBRE, NOTORIOUS, REAL STEEL and a bunch of individual tracks, like this:



(I've not even bothered to mention Oingo Boingo stuff)

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2017 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Oh, that kind of 70s-inspired rock is not my thing. Sounds like The White Stripes or something.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2017 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

It's very much my thing; I think it's an awesome song. Anyways, it was just to showcase Elfman's music outside the orchestral stuff.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2017 - 2:57 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Got the Wisdom LP, played through it once. It's really more of a minimalistic/percussive score than a melodic one, but it's a fine listening experience. The Main Titles is the best track, somewhat reminding me of The Brazilian by Genesis.

For some reason, my Varese/Colloseum LP was published in 1988, two years after the movie.

 
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