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I feel like an apostate from the true faith, but after loading the whole set onto my iPod, I'm having a lovely time just putting it on shuffle. Find it a much more enjoyable way to hear some of the TOS tracks, especially the short ones, mixed into TAS, TNG and other TLAs!
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It's absolutely surreal to realise that I've got virtually all of the music I've ever wanted from The Next Generation and damn near all of the music from The Original Series.
At this point, what from TOS is not available? The only thing I could think of was the cue from “Spock's Brain,” but that's been addressed.
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I got my set. Thank you, La La Land. The TOS second/third season library music sounds great and was very worthy of inclusion. Question: Was the last half of track 13. Prime Specimen (“The Cage” M21–30) LM19 (3:13) actually used in any second/third season TOS episode? If so, which one(s)? I'm asking about the section of the track (as seen in the first pilot, but different recording) where Pike was abducted by the Talosians and taken underground.
The Blue Lagoon
I don't think it was. Quite a bit of both pilot library cues recorded for the Third Season didn't actually make it into the show.
Hello. Thanks for the reply. I didn't remember hearing it in any 2nd/3rd season episode.
The Blue Lagoon
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Correct me if wrong, but didn't Lukas address this a few weeks ago, saying we had everything -- only some wild percussion takes were not included?
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Pretty much.
We have every melody theme, motif and variation, and with this new set, every single cue of note accounted for. This is about as comprehensive representation as I've ever seen. I am content to call it "complete."
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Correct me if wrong, but didn't Lukas address this a few weeks ago, saying we had everything -- only some wild percussion takes were not included?
Sometimes at the end of a recording session they would record "wild" music/FX like different percussion strikes or (after The Empath and Is There in Truth No Beauty?) Yamaha keyboard white noise. Whenever there was some compositional or historical value to these recordings, we would include it in the "bonus" sections (like the sounds that became the transporter effect or McCoy's medical equipment beeps). But often it was just someone striking a drum with different sticks for five minutes. Maybe they thought they had a planet show coming up and might need it. Maybe it was for general studio use. Who knows. For the purposes of releasing anything that resembles music...we're done!
Lukas
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But often it was just someone striking a drum with different sticks for five minutes. Maybe they thought they had a planet show coming up and might need it. Maybe it was for general studio use. Who knows. For the purposes of releasing anything that resembles music...we're done!
Lukas
Maybe some of that stuff was filler intended to make the payroll time sheets and reels of recorded tape add up to what a contract had promised. And no one imagined in a million years that audio archeologists would some day sift through those tapes and find them out.
Under this hypothesis: having more than delivered the quality needed for TV music, they then had to deliver the quantity of tapes.
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But often it was just someone striking a drum with different sticks for five minutes. Maybe they thought they had a planet show coming up and might need it. Maybe it was for general studio use. Who knows. For the purposes of releasing anything that resembles music...we're done!
Lukas
Maybe some of that stuff was filler intended to make the payroll time sheets and reels of recorded tape add up to what a contract had promised. And no one imagined in a million years that audio archeologists would some day sift through those tapes and find them out.
Under this hypothesis: having more than delivered the quality needed for TV music, they then had to deliver the quantity of tapes.
I don't think it was filler in that sense. I think it was more likely created to be used, but in many instances it does seem like they were laying down things rather randomly.
Lukas
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Arrived last night!
So far I've listened to all of disc 4, it's really impressive. Very happy to hear some of my requests like La Paloma, and the source cue "Plucking Three" - I fondly remember these clips from the Star Trek Omnipedia CD-ROM I owned ages ago. The Star Trek Experience track is just a wonder to listen to, as are the early mock ups for DS9 and Voyager - such a treasure trove.
Also very happy to have the Dixon Hill tunes, such lovely songs - especially from First Contact. And the Klingon Opera, and McCarthy's comments in the liner notes about how he approached it - just golden.
I also listened to the Inner Workings, and Sans Narration End Credits on disc one, simply stunning.
I only had time to listen to some of the animated series last night, but really loved the story behind it's original composition/recording in the liner notes. I never watched the show, but have seen clips and recognize the melodies. I am blown away at the sound quality, and was grinning as I turned up the sound on my stereo. I can't wait to dive back in later tonight.
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"If you requested Star Trek music not included here, don't give up! Stay vocal and perhaps they can be included on a 51st anniversary collection!"
Hmmmm.
What an amazing world it is where I can't think of a single thing! (You post TNG fans undoubtedly feel differently of course.)
BTW, the Ron Jones "inspired by" tracks are amazing. Jones could have written like THIS for the TV shows? Not only did they not let him but he got FIRED? I think Rick Berman's contribution to Star Trek is underrated. But wanting to burn him in effigy for what he did to the music is dead to rights.
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"If you requested Star Trek music not included here, don't give up! Stay vocal and perhaps they can be included on a 51st anniversary collection!"
That's actually great to hear that more TNG music is possible if sales warrant it. I compiled the TNG (and DS9) requests list for Lukas, and there is actually a decent amount of requested material still unreleased, such as the much-mentioned teaser cue from Conundrum.
Yavar
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My copy arrived today, but I have to wait until my birthday.
"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Message, Spock?"
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