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Feb 29, 2020 - 4:16 PM
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Zooba
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On the wikipedia page for ROUND MIDNIGHT (soundtrack)
It says under the "OSCAR WIN" information:
The awarding of the Oscar for Best Original Score to ROUND MIDNIGHT has been considered
one of the most controversial in that category, beating out James Horner's score for ALIENS, Jerry
Goldsmith's score to HOOSIERS, and Ennio Morricone's score for THE MISSION. Morricone who had
never won a competitive Oscar at the time, said in an interview, " I definitely felt that I should have
won for THE MISSION, especially when you consider that the Oscar Winner that year was ROUND MIDNIGHT, which was not an Original Score. It had a very good arrangement by Herbie Hancock, but it used existing pieces. So there could be no comparison to THE MISSION. There was a theft!"
Zooba back.
From the looks of the Soundtrack content there is two tracks credited to Hancock:
"Berangere's Nightmare" and "Still Time", so were the voters basing their votes on just these two contributions by Hancock and thinking this truly made up such a great "Original" Score? I find that doubtful. So it pretty much was the case of person in wrong category winning over people in the right category. Another unfair win given by Academy Voters. How fortunate for Hancock and sadly a crock for James, Jerry, Leonard and Ennio who seems it personally affected the most.
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without no doubt - the mission
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No love for Out of Africa?
That was 1985. And, ugh, that was another year someone got robbed. Bruce Broughton for Silverado.
But that is a thread.........for another day.
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I agree that Round Midnight did not win because of Hancock's original music. And posters can justify their other choices for that reason. And The Mission has stood the test of time and is a favorite by many. It really should have won. i wouldn't make much of a fuss about any of the others not winning.
BUT none of this detracts from the fact that Hancock did a masterful job in arranging diverse groups of musicians playing not "just jazz standards" but truly great pieces of music. Plus, he gave a very eloquent speech, thanking Bud Powell, Lester Young, Thelonious Monk, Billie Holiday, Dexter Gordon, and more. So give Herbie Hancock some credit.
PLUS. The poster who dissed Anne Dudley's Oscar win misses the point. She may have won for the popularity of the songs, but she deserved the Oscar. The score, while brief, is perfect: witty, sly, and even resembles the Rocky theme in a downtrodden sort of way. Far better than so many of those bloated generic orchestral scores that Hollywood cranks out.
PS: In my brief concert promoting career we brought Dexter Gordon to St. Louis for a performance at Graham Chapel, prior to Round Midnight. Gordon was singled out by Miles Davis as an inspiration for his fashion sense. Anyway, when I met Gordon I was wearing a bowler and the great man said, "Nice top!"
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No love for Out of Africa?
That was 1985. A worthy winner.
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Herbie Hancock was famous and hip in '86, hence the Oscar. If Mick Jagger ever wrote a film score, the Oscar would go to him automatically.
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It's a toss-up between The Mission and Hoosiers, I suppose. And yet… while Morricone certainly composed a couple undeniably ravishing set pieces, I think Goldsmith composed the more articulate score. As for Aliens, well, it doesn't belong on the list. Sure, it works great in the film, but it's hard to get past the recycling, cribbing and Goldsmith inserts. Rosenman gets crapped on just for being Rosenman, but the score he provided for Star Trek IV genuinely works like gangbusters in the film. Never saw Round Midnight, so I can only take other people's word for the dubious merits of its nomination and win.
A shortlist of other scores that enhanced my viewing experience*:
Blue Velvet
Betty Blue
Crimes of the Heart
The Fly
Jean de Florette/Manon des Sources
King Kong Lives
Mosquito Coast
Pirates
A Room With a View
* I've never seen The Boy Who Could Fly, An American Tail, Tai-Pan or Children of a Lesser God so I can't judge their merits in the film they accompany, but all make for very highly satisfying, standalone soundtrack listens.
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I swear this is at least the third time Zooba has started a thread re the '86 Oscar score nominees.
The Mission is my choice of the nominations.
But how about this for an alternative Oscar list?
Absolute Beginners (did they have a Song Score category this year?)
Betty Blue (37.2 le matin) (Yared)
Blue Velvet (Badalamenti)
Ginger and Fred (Piovani)
Gothic (Dolby) (actually this didn't premiere in the U.S. until 1987)
The Mission (Morricone)
Something Wild (Laurie Anderson, John Cale) (or maybe this should be in the Adaptation category just for its overall fantastic selection of songs)
True Stories (damn, they really needed a Song Score category this year!)
Under the Cherry Moon (why wasn't there a Song Score category this year??)
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Is there anywhere online to hear music from Jurriaan Andriessen's score for The Assault?
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I swear this is at least the third time Zooba has started a thread re the '86 Oscar score nominees.
I thought I did too Mark R.Y.
I checked the search engine and nothing came up when I typed in Best Oscar Score 1986 or 1987.
Maybe I'm not doing something right.
You're fine, Zoob. The search engine here can sometimes be a mysterious and inaccessible entity - I tried looking in vain this morning for my 2011 post on seeing "Lord Jim" in 70mm.
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