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What makes the Silva CD a disaster? I love it, but maybe I don't have the backstory on what it could have or should have been. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a 2-disc with complete score and Varese album. I doubt that'll happen, at least I doubt the Varese version will be paired with the film score unless Varese are the ones to do it.
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Enjoy the score, but Silva's CD is exhausting for me. I would probably buy a remastered expanded release if it was made available, but I won't shed a tear if all I'll ever have is the Silva release.
Folks, everyone is saying THAT they don't like Silva's presentation but not WHY.
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Ah, okay. Thank you both, solium and Tom. I haven't heard my copy in a few years but I used to play it a lot. I'd still be interested in hearing the Varese SUPERGIRL as I don't know what's missing from it and/or exclusive to it.
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Oct 30, 2015 - 1:46 PM
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Brad Wills
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I've always been in the minority on this one, as I think SUPERGIRL ranks among Goldsmith's best scores of the '80's. To my ears, this score and LEGEND mark the end of Goldsmith's reign as the master of complex, dense writing and creative sound fields unique to each respective film, right at the jumping off point before he began streamlining and homogenizing his overall sound (at least until TOTAL RECALL and HOLLOW MAN both got his innovative juices flowing again).
I found the initial Varese LP/CD release to be completely dissatisfying due to some truly poor sequencing, and especially because there were so many great cues and key moments not include, such as Supergirl's journey from Inner Earth, the dark, eerie Phantom Zone sequence, and oh...I don't know...say, something trivial like the entire climax of the film?!? I was ecstatic to have the Silva issue, and I still play it regularly. My only gripe has to do with the original acoustics, and this applies to both the Varese and the Silva. It was recorded in too wet a space (a church, I believe???), and there is way too much reverb, which thereby muddies up the orchestra. Unless reverb was added in post-production, there's no way to undo that, unfortunately, and as a result, much of the impact is lost upon casual listening. You really have to pay close attention to ferret out all the intricate instrumentation and arrangements. I've often wondered if those very acoustics have been the culprit in not engaging the listener, because the wash of sound is simply wearisome after a while.
Perhaps one day, some enterprising label will have access to the complete and unmixed multi-track sessions, and a fresh mix can be made. Maybe there was indeed post-production reverb added, and that issue could then be addressed. If so, I'd be thrilled, and I would wager that the score might then earn many more fans.
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Count me as one who hasn't quite come around to loving this one yet. The action cues are fantastic, and most of the score is indeed very good, but I have to admit that the main theme -- for me -- pales in comparison to Williams's Superman theme. It gets kinda annoying after a while, much like King Solomon's Mines for me.
But I would instantly buy a new version in the hopes of warming up to this score!
Yavar
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Oct 30, 2015 - 4:00 PM
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It was recorded in too wet a space (a church, I believe???), and there is way too much reverb, which thereby muddies up the orchestra. Unless reverb was added in post-production, there's no way to undo that, unfortunately, and as a result, much of the impact is lost upon casual listening. You really have to pay close attention to ferret out all the intricate instrumentation and arrangements. I've often wondered if those very acoustics have been the culprit in not engaging the listener, because the wash of sound is simply wearisome after a while.
Perhaps one day, some enterprising label will have access to the complete and unmixed multi-track sessions, and a fresh mix can be made. Maybe there was indeed post-production reverb added, and that issue could then be addressed. If so, I'd be thrilled, and I would wager that the score might then earn many more fans.
I totally agree with it, the score is recorded with too much reverb, but there is a plug called D-verb it may helps for a new mastering process...
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I have the Silva release and what I hate about is the fact that it doesn't have the music as Supergirl is sent off to the Phantom Zone or the full end credits with the synth swooshes.
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