Yes definetly only to be watched in the theater....and yes ..same for me ..the music was way too loud and too much.It was anoying in some parts and the power of silence was never played..it was a tapestry of constant sound.
I always laugh to think, "I might be part of the problem." I'm in my mid-30s and theater-going has looooong been a love of my life. My parents were quite the early cinephiles and we would go to the movies often and make sure to explode into discussion and conversation following the 2 hours of silent observation. We had an awesome home theater setup for much of my life too. My godfather always bested us though by staying on top of whatever new digital technology he could get. Even as he is nearly 80 today he got a 4K TV and Dolby Atmos surround before I was even aware they were available to the public. I digress, but going to a theater is like going to a concert for me. I'm only going to do it a few times a year at this age in my life but I want it to stand as an event for me. I want the picture to awe me with celluloid or digital clarity and I want the sound to permeate my body. I love it when a concert is loud and I love it when the movies are loud. That sound is part of the larger experience. It doesn't matter the movie, either. Like the old adage goes: "If it's too loud, you are too old!" I hope to never be too old.
Interesting. I haven’t received the album version yet. Should have it next week. Is the music that leads into the end credits on there? I recall a sort of swelling electric guitar kinda deal. The music that builds right up until the last shot.
Is that on there?
It is indeed! The final track, "My Road Leads into the Desert."
Excellent. Thanks.
Yeah the speakers were practically shaking themselves apart in my theatre. I wouldn’t have it any other way.
I always laugh to think, "I might be part of the problem." I'm in my mid-30s and theater-going has looooong been a love of my life. My parents were quite the early cinephiles and we would go to the movies often and make sure to explode into discussion and conversation following the 2 hours of silent observation. We had an awesome home theater setup for much of my life too. My godfather always bested us though by staying on top of whatever new digital technology he could get. Even as he is nearly 80 today he got a 4K TV and Dolby Atmos surround before I was even aware they were available to the public. I digress, but going to a theater is like going to a concert for me. I'm only going to do it a few times a year at this age in my life but I want it to stand as an event for me. I want the picture to awe me with celluloid or digital clarity and I want the sound to permeate my body. I love it when a concert is loud and I love it when the movies are loud. That sound is part of the larger experience. It doesn't matter the movie, either. Like the old adage goes: "If it's too loud, you are too old!" I hope to never be too old.
Nicely put. We currently live in a semi-detached house with our living room only a thin wall away from next door, so I’ve got a home cinema set-up that I’ve barely been able to use to its fullest. If all goes well, by next Spring we’ll be in a brand new detached house with an Atmos system and all the volume we can handle. Can’t wait!
We currently live in a semi-detached house with our living room only a thin wall away from next door, so I’ve got a home cinema set-up that I’ve barely been able to use to its fullest. If all goes well, by next Spring we’ll be in a brand new detached house with an Atmos system and all the volume we can handle. Can’t wait!
My wife Janae (also a big cinephile) and I got so lucky when we bought out first house earlier this year. The prior owners converted the garage into a "media room" which connects to the main part of the house. Basically turning it into its own wing alongside an office/library add-on. So our master and the other bedrooms are on the opposite side if our house would be seen as an upside down "L" from the sky. They even built 4 speakers into the converted garage! Two in the wall at TV level, and two in the ceiling at the rear of the room; both equidistant from each other. One of the first things I did for the house was purchase a new soundbar and subwoofer, and a new receiver. 5.1 and ready! I've watched Dune once at home on HBOMax and thankfully sound doesn't travel too awful in the house. The at-home experience was nice, but obviously pales compared to my Dolby Atmos theatrical experience. I do anxiously anticipate the 4K Blu Ray release to get my hands on the uncompressed picture and audio that await my home theater.
My question would be, who else would have been a good choice to create the score for Dune? Who could elevate Villeneuve's imagery while calling back to the Golden/Silver Age classics?
I don't think a different composer is going to write a score that calls back to Golden/Silver Age classics for Dune. It's not just about the composer and what he wants to do, after all, and no score to a Villeneuve film would lead me to believe that someone who isn't Zimmer (or Johannsson if he were still alive) would have written that kind of music for this version of Dune.
We currently live in a semi-detached house with our living room only a thin wall away from next door, so I’ve got a home cinema set-up that I’ve barely been able to use to its fullest. If all goes well, by next Spring we’ll be in a brand new detached house with an Atmos system and all the volume we can handle. Can’t wait!
My wife Janae (also a big cinephile) and I got so lucky when we bought out first house earlier this year. The prior owners converted the garage into a "media room" which connects to the main part of the house. Basically turning it into its own wing alongside an office/library add-on. So our master and the other bedrooms are on the opposite side if our house would be seen as an upside down "L" from the sky. They even built 4 speakers into the converted garage! Two in the wall at TV level, and two in the ceiling at the rear of the room; both equidistant from each other. One of the first things I did for the house was purchase a new soundbar and subwoofer, and a new receiver. 5.1 and ready! I've watched Dune once at home on HBOMax and thankfully sound doesn't travel too awful in the house. The at-home experience was nice, but obviously pales compared to my Dolby Atmos theatrical experience. I do anxiously anticipate the 4K Blu Ray release to get my hands on the uncompressed picture and audio that await my home theater.
Sounds great, excuse the pun. Our builder can’t fix the Atmos speakers in because it would compromise the fire rating of the ceiling for the ten-year new-build guarantee, but they’re laying the cables ready for the speakers and fire hoods when we move in. The speaker I always have trouble with is the centre one; presumably a sound bar would solve that but currently it sits behind the tv and doesn’t have a clear path into the room. I’ll have to ponder that: first world problems!
Even judging by Dune scores of the past I don't know why they would assume this either. Brian Tyler's excellent Children of Dune can be an often majestic score though that saga of the book series is about a different time in that universe and I think people mostly remember the opening of the album if they reflect on it. Toto's Dune is epic and wonderful, but just as reliant upon modern sound. Graeme Revell's Sci-Fi Channel miniseries score is also modern and ethnic. I would wager most people are just too accustomed to the things which Dune inspires: Star Wars being primary target. They see "desert planet" and "hero's journey" and immediately think, "Why doesn't this sound like Gustav Holst or Erich Korngold's The Sea Hawk or King's Row?"
Our builder can’t fix the Atmos speakers in because it would compromise the fire rating of the ceiling for the ten-year new-build guarantee, but they’re laying the cables ready for the speakers and fire hoods when we move in. The speaker I always have trouble with is the centre one; presumably a sound bar would solve that but currently it sits behind the tv and doesn’t have a clear path into the room. I’ll have to ponder that: first world problems!
I hope it can work for you, so best of luck to you, TG!
My question would be, who else would have been a good choice to create the score for Dune? Who could elevate Villeneuve's imagery while calling back to the Golden/Silver Age classics?
I imagine DV decided what type of score he wanted and from whom, and how loud it would be in the mix. If we’re talking fantasy composer for Dune, I might go with Ryuichi Sakamoto. However, the choice of Hans Zimmer is right for the film, because that’s what DV decided he needed for his vision. We viewers are free to like it or not! Me, I’m fine with it.
Even judging by Dune scores of the past I don't know why they would assume this either. Brian Tyler's excellent Children of Dune can be an often majestic score though that saga of the book series is about a different time in that universe and I think people mostly remember the opening of the album if they reflect on it. Toto's Dune is epic and wonderful, but just as reliant upon modern sound. Graeme Revell's Sci-Fi Channel miniseries score is also modern and ethnic. I would wager most people are just too accustomed to the things which Dune inspires: Star Wars being primary target. They see "desert planet" and "hero's journey" and immediately think, "Why doesn't this sound like Gustav Holst or Erich Korngold's The Sea Hawk or King's Row?"
Yep. And it's not like music isn't ever at the forefront of a Villeneuve picture - just think of the number of times Zimmer's music let rip during DUNE or BLADE RUNNER 2049, or some of the standout cues from SICARIO or ARRIVAL. None of the music is Golden/Silver Age type music, but it all works for the movie it's attached to.
My question would be, who else would have been a good choice to create the score for Dune? Who could elevate Villeneuve's imagery while calling back to the Golden/Silver Age classics?
I imagine DV decided what type of score he wanted and from whom, and how loud it would be in the mix. If we’re talking fantasy composer for Dune, I might go with Ryuichi Sakamoto. However, the choice of Hans Zimmer is right for the film, because that’s what DV decided he needed for his vision. We viewers are free to like it or not! Me, I’m fine with it.
As I said in my post just before this one (that I apparently was writing when you wrote yours!), I'm in complete agreement with what you said about DV (maybe not so much Sakamoto being a fantasy composer for the movie, though!).
As I said in my post just before this one (that I apparently was writing when you wrote yours!), I'm in complete agreement with what you said about DV (maybe not so much Sakamoto being a fantasy composer for the movie, though!).
Heh, I’m not one to impose my fantasies onto others!
Ryuichi Sakamoto would've provided a fantastic score for this film, though it also would've driven many here mad. Another composer of the world which might've been a strong fit would be A.R. Rahman. Yet again, members here would throw a fit. But try listening to his Muhammad: The Messenger of God score and not understand it to be epic and majestic and befitting of stature of any of the classic and beloved Biblical epic soundtracks of yore.
I love John Williams and Elliot Goldenthal with the best of them. Hell, Goldenthal's Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within is one of the great Science Fiction motion pictures scores of all time (shame about the movie not meetings its stature in music). I get it. But Williams isn't working like he used to and Goldenthal is also partially retired and likely never to return to big budget studio films. You can't set unrealistic expectations and be consistently upset they were never met.
Finally saw this on the Big Screen and was overall impressed. Very well mounted and suitably epic, when it needed to be. The story is very political and full of treachery and mystical omens and DV seemed perfectly suited to it. Unlike the messy, rushed, all-over-the-show Lynch version, this one had time to breathe and flow much better. It's well cast (I liked all the players in their roles) and looks (generally) fine (I don't like the way Den-Vil lights some interior shots...much like in ARRIVAL...they're way too murky). The FX are very good and it's edited well and flows quite nicely (although I didn't like the sloppy/hasty opening credit technique which just seemed to throw the title up there for a second or two). I did find the first half of the film to be much stronger than the second half, but I was always engrossed and never bored (a first for me and Den-Vil). And oh my...all those STAR WARS call-outs! Lucas should hang his head in shame. Zimmer's music worked well IN THE FILM and sounds like a naturally organic part of its world. But I'd never want to listen to it away from the film. It's just not 'my kind of film music' in that respect. And yes, it was hella loud at times!! I'm glad that Part 2 has been greenlit, as I look forward to seeing the rest of the story unfold. I'd say...7/10 (but I wouldn't recommend (trying) to watch it on TV, unless you've got your own Odeon).
I was able to finally find a pressed copy of the Dune Sketchbook. I ordered from importcds via ebay from the link below. There is no mention of a CDr in the item description. At the very least, importcds usually labels it as a CDr in the item specifics field, which is not the case here.
Obviously YMMV, but just wanted to pass along the info.
I think I like the FYC album a lot better than the OST. Still a toss up for me between that and the sketchbook as to which is the better listen. The score isn't terrible, but I can't help but feel that it's still a bit stifling and oppressive and a bit of a missed opportunity.
