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 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 10:13 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

How would the fans of Wild Wild West describe the music for someone who is not familiar with it? I'm a big Tiomkin fan so it is intriguing for sure.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 10:23 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

How would the fans of Wild Wild West describe the music for someone who is not familiar with it? I'm a big Tiomkin fan so it is intriguing for sure.

I am a big Dimitri Tiomkin fan also, but how much of this CD is the work of Dimitri Tiomkin ?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

How would the fans of Wild Wild West describe the music for someone who is not familiar with it? I'm a big Tiomkin fan so it is intriguing for sure.



Compared to the composers presented on the series, Tiomkin's sound is at odd and from another time (the Golden Age).
Silver Age composer Richard Markowitz—who replaces Tiomkin—is a modernist who combines jazz, Americana and military march.
Markowitz was the equivalent of Lalo Schifrin for The Wild Wild West. Markowitz shapes the sound of the two leading characters (Jim and Artie) and the main foe (Dr Loveless). During season 3, Markowitz re-arranged the theme of James West with a filtered electric guitar to be hip.

Film Score Blog (September 2009): In Memoriam Richard Markowitz (1926-1994)
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/daily/article.cfm/articleID/6325/

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   Angelillo   (Member)

I wish the July 4th sale lasted one more day so we could order them along with the new releases (for combined shipping).

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 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 11:35 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

I LOVE this stuff. I'm really hoping that it includes Johnny Parker's "Spanish Curse" music.

With only (sic) 28 episode scores represented someone's bound to be disappointed...

Unless they decide to do what they did with Wonder Woman and give all the composers a look-in. And if they do do that, that means "The Night of Spanish Curse" will be there, whereas Robert Prince will probably only get "The Night of the Winged Terror, Part 1."!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)


I am a big Dimitri Tiomkin fan also, but how much of this CD is the work of Dimitri Tiomkin ?



Not very much Tiomkin I would suggest.

Also the score is somewhat 'eclectic', if I can put it that way - there are examples on YouTube.

You may also like to read this:

http://www.filmmusicsociety.org/news_events/features/frontpagenews.php?ArticleID=061206

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)


The trailer music (see above) really reminds me of Shores' work on the U.N.C.L.E. series (serieses?).

"Can't hardly wait".



It's Richard Shore's music that I'm most looking forward to smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)


It's Richard Shore's music that I'm most looking forward to smile


If "The Night of the Firebrand" isn't there I will very surprised.

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Who says the labels aren't working on those other scores as well. Or maybe those titles are more difficult to release.
But it's very simple... If you don't like it, don't buy it.


It's not a matter of what I like or not.

My point is: why a top label would waste efforts on producing titles only a very few might buy (previous editions of such obscure music are available cheap on the secondary market), and later they express annoyance that people don't buy the products or that the market has become difficult.


It's not a wasted effort. It's a sound economic decision with a guarantee of 1000 units sold within the first 30 days of release, netting an income of roughly $17k, a profit of about $8k.



MV

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)


I am a big Dimitri Tiomkin fan also, but how much of this CD is the work of Dimitri Tiomkin ?



Not very much Tiomkin I would suggest.

Also the score is somewhat 'eclectic', if I can put it that way - there are examples on YouTube.


Well, there used to be... frown but if you have Spotify it's on

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Alamo-Essential-Film-Music-Collection/dp/B00022MBNK

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

Who says the labels aren't working on those other scores as well. Or maybe those titles are more difficult to release.
But it's very simple... If you don't like it, don't buy it.


It's not a matter of what I like or not.

My point is: why a top label would waste efforts on producing titles only a very few might buy (previous editions of such obscure music are available cheap on the secondary market), and later they express annoyance that people don't buy the products or that the market has become difficult.


It's not a wasted effort. It's a sound economic decision with a guarantee of 1000 units sold within the first 30 days of release, netting an income of roughly $17k, a profit of about $8k.



MV


Rest assured I'll be contributing to that 8k profit.

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   batman&robin   (Member)

I sincerely apologise if I sounded rude or something! It wasn't my intention at all. I love LLL deeply and respect their outstanding work by all means.

And I'm not complaining, I adore Horner. My reaction was adressed to those who think we need expanded reissues of scores like "Bopha". But I also believe people can express opinions freely.

Just for the record, on another post I suggested LLL should revisit Mark Isham's "Reversal of Fortune" and I was attacked for saying this. So obviously on man's junk is another's treasure.

Peace! smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 12:50 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

I sincerely apologise if I sounded rude or something! It wasn't my intention at all. I love LLL deeply and respect their outstanding work by all means.

And I'm not complaining, I adore Horner. My reaction was adressed to those who think we need expanded reissues of scores like "Bopha". But I also believe people can express opinions freely.

Just for the record, on another post I suggested LLL should revisit Mark Isham's "Reversal of Fortune" and I was attacked for saying this. So obviously on man's junk is another's treasure.

Peace! smile


Isham is a wonderful composer, but he doesn't have the fanbase of Horner. Sometimes it's all about the composer (Williams, Goldsmith, Barry, Elfman, Zimmer, Poledouris, Kamen, Herrmann, Carpenter) seem to have fans that will buy just about everything...even over again if there is something new to add!

MV

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 12:58 PM   
 By:   mild_cigar   (Member)

Please don't forget the legendary film score composer, Sir Monty Norman. Composer of the "Dr No" Film score.

Mild.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)


Isham is a wonderful composer, but he doesn't have the fanbase of Horner. Sometimes it's all about the composer (Williams, Goldsmith, Barry, Elfman, Zimmer, Poledouris, Kamen, Herrmann, Carpenter) seem to have fans that will buy just about everything...even over again if there is something new to add!

MV
Agree! I'll buy even Bells (aka Murder by Phone) - just 'cause it's Barry score! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 5:03 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)



And I'm not complaining, I adore Horner. My reaction was adressed to those who think we need expanded reissues of scores like "Bopha".


See, I could have mentioned any other score, but I specifically mentioned "Bopha!" because it was one of three scores released by "Big Screen Records" that Horner composed, and LLL had acquired the rights to their catalog a few years ago - the first Horner title from that defunct label getting the expanded treatment being "Searching For Bobby Fischer", which came literally days before Horner's plane crash.

The other two titles released were the above mentioned "Bopha!" and "The Pelican Brief".

I mentioned that score specifically also because like "Unlawful Entry", "Bopha!" is an almost all-synth score.


 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 7:48 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Bopha! is actually one of his best synth scores if you whittle it down to like 20 minutes.

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 8:00 PM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)


Isham is a wonderful composer, but he doesn't have the fanbase of Horner. Sometimes it's all about the composer (Williams, Goldsmith, Barry, Elfman, Zimmer, Poledouris, Kamen, Herrmann, Carpenter) seem to have fans that will buy just about everything...even over again if there is something new to add!

MV
Agree! I'll buy even Bells (aka Murder by Phone) - just 'cause it's Barry score! smile


I'd actually like a release of BELLS (and if it wasn't recorded in Canada, I'd like to believe that there's a shot in hell it'll be released).

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 9:17 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)


Isham is a wonderful composer, but he doesn't have the fanbase of Horner. Sometimes it's all about the composer (Williams, Goldsmith, Barry, Elfman, Zimmer, Poledouris, Kamen, Herrmann, Carpenter) seem to have fans that will buy just about everything...even over again if there is something new to add!

MV
Agree! I'll buy even Bells (aka Murder by Phone) - just 'cause it's Barry score! smile


I'd actually like a release of BELLS (and if it wasn't recorded in Canada, I'd like to believe that there's a shot in hell it'll be released).


??? Recorded in Canada? What would be the difference?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 9:39 PM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)


??? Recorded in Canada? What would be the difference?

Different fees. Do you remember Funeral Home? It was recorded in Canada and their musician union asked much more than AFM, that's why the price was much higher for 1CD release - $29.98.
From another point of view - Bells is synth-only score, so not much musicians (only 1-2 were mention in credits, if I remember it correctly) were involved, so maybe it will not cost as much as if it was recorded with full orchestra.
But in any case - it's TOOOOOOO obscure - I doubt that any label could sell even 300-500 of this one even among hardcore Barry fans. Maybe I'm wrong.

 
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