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 Posted:   Mar 12, 2020 - 9:49 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)


CHARIOTS OF FIRE was ' ruined' by synths.


Yes!


Disagree. It was saved by a man who may have used synths, but is a first-rate composer and dramatist and was the right voice to really ignite the drama.

Without Vangelis, Chariots of Fire would feel like a mundane, costive period piece.


A first rate composer created a fantastic new age album.
Chariots of Fire remains a mundane, costive period pieced even with the score.


yeah I agree with that, within itself that score is fine, but a total incongruity in the film.
A traditionally orchestral built score would have better served the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2020 - 4:43 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Seeing as this film's release date just got postponed, don't expect the soundtrack anytime soon.

J

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2020 - 3:59 AM   
 By:   Per   (Member)

At the sight of the teaser we can think that they opted for a more realistic version of the Mulan's myth without songs , without little fun red dragon , without anything from Jerry ... what a pity.

The Chinese soundtrack for the chinese movie Mulan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stfb5tVz0fU&list=PLB86CB8D4AC9B867D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSMPO6jvKAQ&list=PLB86CB8D4AC9B867D&index=9


Anyone who has this (other than the youtube guy) ?

Was it a bonus CD included with the DVD maybe...

www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/93086/Hua+Mulan

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2020 - 5:45 AM   
 By:   keky   (Member)

At the sight of the teaser we can think that they opted for a more realistic version of the Mulan's myth without songs , without little fun red dragon , without anything from Jerry ... what a pity.

The Chinese soundtrack for the chinese movie Mulan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stfb5tVz0fU&list=PLB86CB8D4AC9B867D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSMPO6jvKAQ&list=PLB86CB8D4AC9B867D&index=9


Anyone who has this (other than the youtube guy) ?

Was it a bonus CD included with the DVD maybe...

www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/93086/Hua+Mulan


I had it but sold it. If I remember correctly it was the soundtrack CD and a bonus DVD with a videoclip of the title song and some other stuff.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2020 - 10:18 PM   
 By:   Mephariel   (Member)

Excited about this one. Hearing mostly good things about it.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2020 - 7:50 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)


Reviews of the movie have been good. Has anyone here seen the movie? Thoughts? Has anyone heard Gregson-Williams' score?

Roger Ebert's site gave the movie 3 and a half stars out of four. Below is the only mention of the score that I've found. It is from Ebert's site.


Pieces of “Reflection”—the 1998 theme that helped make Christina Aguilera a superstar—punctuate Harry Gregson-Williams’ score here and in other key moments, allowing them to soar but also tying back nicely to the animated movie that means so much to so many. (Stick around through the credits to hear Aguilera performing an update of the power ballad as well as a delicate Chinese-language version from Liu herself.)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2020 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   moviescore1   (Member)

I've heard mixed reviews on the new film. There's a big plot point that I've heard about that I'm not a fan of that they changed. I really like the animated version and of course, Jerry's amazing score (what a perfect time release the actual first score in all it's glory, but sadly no...)

I've been listening to the HGW score on Spotify this morning and it's good, but a bit on the generic side for me. Nothing has really stood out for me. If you want to hear an amazing score that mixes Asian and western influences, check out "Mao's Last Dancer" by Christopher Gordon.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2020 - 1:22 AM   
 By:   Mephariel   (Member)

I just finished listening to the score and I agree that it is a mixed bag for me. A lot of the action scoring is very generic, and I think HGW didn't incorporate the ethnic elements that well into the score. The main theme is...very forgettable.

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2020 - 5:47 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I just finished listening to the score and I agree that it is a mixed bag for me. A lot of the action scoring is very generic, and I think HGW didn't incorporate the ethnic elements that well into the score. The main theme is...very forgettable.

Disappointing. I expected something great from him. I'm especially annoyed at the state of action scoring in Hollywood. I'll sample this on Spotify before I decided to order the score.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2020 - 6:00 AM   
 By:   jwb1   (Member)

I don't understand. It sounds like his Asian version of Kingdom of Heaven. I liked it. Some of the tracks are just filler, but there are a decent amount of standout tracks both action and softer.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2020 - 6:31 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I am fundamentally opposed to Disney's 'Re-animation Project' (i.e. reanimation in that they reboot classic animated films in live action format), so I'll probably be skipping this film. I had some expections for HGW's music, as I've come to appreciate him more in recent years, but alas, I'm hearing mostly 'textures' here without much in terms of identity or soul. The best parts are the leftovers of the thematic material from the 90s movie. Of course, it doesn't help that the album is a whopping 90 minutes. Some serious whittling is required.

An 'Asian' version of his masterpiece KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, this is not. But by boiling it down to some 40-50 minutes, there might be a decent album hiding in there somewhere.

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2020 - 7:04 AM   
 By:   davefg   (Member)

I just finished listening to the score and I agree that it is a mixed bag for me. A lot of the action scoring is very generic, and I think HGW didn't incorporate the ethnic elements that well into the score. The main theme is...very forgettable.

Disappointing. I expected something great from him. I'm especially annoyed at the state of action scoring in Hollywood. I'll sample this on Spotify before I decided to order the score.


If you are looking for an Asian powerhouse score, check Badelt's The Promise (2005). It is a stunning score.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2020 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)

Wrote a little review of the new album:

http://www.movie-wave.net/mulan/

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2020 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   Mephariel   (Member)

Wrote a little review of the new album:

http://www.movie-wave.net/mulan/


Yep, you basically summed up how I felt. Score doesn't really have soul to me. I wasn't expecting Jerry Goldsmith again, but this is not even close to being as fun as the Kung Fu Panda scores by Zimmer/Powell, even if we just stay with RCP comparisons.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2020 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

I love sitting down, listening to a score, loving it, and then coming to the FSM board to see it completely shot down.

INTJ for the win.

lol

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2020 - 12:14 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

I love sitting down, listening to a score, loving it, and then coming to the FSM board to see it completely shot down.

INTJ for the win.

lol


hat about this score do you like? I'd like positive feedback from those who really dig it.

I will say the reference to RVW Lark Ascending is pretty distracting for me.... it's hard to get past it.

And even if you don't hear that, the 6 note phrase can also be heard in Schifrin's Rush Hour score.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2020 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

Anyhow, what about this score do you like? I'd like positive feedback from those who really dig it.


Well to put it in context, 2020 hasn’t been the best year for film scores, so the bar is currently resting pretty low to begin with. And I’m a big fan of HGW’s “epic” style as heard in Kingdom of Heaven, Chronicles of Narnia, and Prince of Persia. So I went into this score hoping for two things... 1. That familiar HGW style and 2. Enjoyable quasi-Chinese-infused melodies and texture. I’m happy to report that the score delivered both of those for me! Is it the best score he’s done? Nope. Was I expecting that? Nope. What the album presented to me was a musical representation of a Chinese historical figure that I could imagine in my mind as I listened to the album from start to finish. It has highs, lows, action, drama, suspense... everything I had hoped for. A few more listens to the score solidified this impression. And as a big fan of the Goldsmith original, I appreciated the nods to his score.

Reviews of the film (which I have not seen) portray it as a middle-of-the-road flick trying to be both a bloodless historical epic and a family-friendly tale of personal growth. I think HGW did the best job possible, and I’m off to give the album another listen. Cheers!

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2020 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Anyhow, what about this score do you like? I'd like positive feedback from those who really dig it.


Well to put it in context, 2020 hasn’t been the best year for film scores, so the bar is currently resting pretty low to begin with. And I’m a big fan of HGW’s “epic” style as heard in Kingdom of Heaven, Chronicles of Narnia, and Prince of Persia. So I went into this score hoping for two things... 1. That familiar HGW style and 2. Enjoyable quasi-Chinese-infused melodies and texture. I’m happy to report that the score delivered both of those for me! Is it the best score he’s done? Nope. Was I expecting that? Nope. What the album presented to me was a musical representation of a Chinese historical figure that I could imagine in my mind as I listened to the album from start to finish. It has highs, lows, action, drama, suspense... everything I had hoped for. A few more listens to the score solidified this impression. And as a big fan of the Goldsmith original, I appreciated the nods to his score.

Reviews of the film (which I have not seen) portray it as a middle-of-the-road flick trying to be both a bloodless historical epic and a family-friendly tale of personal growth. I think HGW did the best job possible, and I’m off to give the album another listen. Cheers!


I'm spinning it as I type this. I like the activity and energy for sure. It's not a sound wash. There is lot of interesting music moments. It moves along quite well. I'm definitely more impressed with this compared to much of what I've heard from HGW whose scores usually work in the film but are a touch uninvolved apart from the movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2020 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

Highlights for me include...

- The main theme heard as soon as the score starts in "Ancestors" and then resolving beautifully in "Mulan & the Emperor"
- The fantastic build-up of the second half of "Four Ounces Can Move a Thousand Pounds"
- The nods to Goldsmith's score, especially at the beginning of "Mulan Rides Into Battle" and at 4:50 of "Fight For the Kingdom"
- "The Charge" aka Chinese Kingdom of Heaven lol

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2020 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Highlights for me include...

- The main theme heard as soon as the score starts in "Ancestors" and then resolving beautifully in "Mulan & the Emperor"
- The fantastic build-up of the second half of "Four Ounces Can Move a Thousand Pounds"
- The nods to Goldsmith's score, especially at the beginning of "Mulan Rides Into Battle" and at 4:50 of "Fight For the Kingdom"
- "The Charge" aka Chinese Kingdom of Heaven lol


There are quotes from Reflections in this too but a bit re-harmonized

 
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