 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
From that page:
"The film will also be released in a Limited-Edition Collector’s Set entitled “The Complete Adventure,” which includes the new Director’s Edition, the theatrical cut, and a special longer cut all on 4K Ultra HD along with special features on Blu-ray. "
I know I shouldn't get my hopes up, but does this mean they're giving us the "Special Longer Version" (my preferred version overall) in HD this release? The Facebook group has a lot of snobbery to those who like that version.
According to Star Trek.com
This Limited-Edition Collector’s Set includes all of the above, plus an additional 4K Ultra HD disc containing:
The Theatrical Cut
The first-ever widescreen presentation of the Special Longer Version of Star Trek: The Motion Picture, originally created for broadcast television in 1983
This will be exclusive to the box set???
It's exclusive to The Complete Adventure set which is the Theatircal, the DE, and the TV version. It'll be $100.
https://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Directors-Complete-Adventure/dp/B0B45BZZCH/ref=tmm_frk_title_0?_encoding=UTF8&&qid=&&sr=
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Probably alone on this, but geez, they really could have kept their fingers out of the Special Longer Version, that was just not necessary for them to meddle in it. The scaffold shot was part of the lore of that version, and they 'fixed it".
My understanding is that it's "fixed" as a bonus feature and is as it always was in the film itself. if that makes you feel any better.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
We need to end this George Lucas syndrome. this is bad.
George Lucas though replaced his originals with his tricked up versions, made them official, keeps changing them and won't allow the originals to be distributed other than as a low res bonus feature on a 15 year old DVD release.
Star Trek TMP still exists to purchase, either on home video physical disc or via streaming in the theatrical cut and you can watch it.
The original series 1960's effects can still be chosen on the Blu Rays (although you can't find them on DVD or steaming anymore).
As long as they keep the originals available, they can add cat's buttholes to everyone's costumes and I'd be fine with it.
Having said that, I don't totally disagree with your assessment. The strengths of the DE are the film restoration, the sound mix and the pacing/inclusion of essential missing scenes. Some of the effects worked well for me but the shots which I consider failures are glaring. The lounge scene in particular, especially on the big screen.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
my reading of this is opposite, the original unaltered version is just a bonus clip, the film itself was 'fixed'.
You're right, I did misread that. It doesn't bother me mostly because it's fixing a huge gaffe rather than changing an effect. Lucas upgraded to either make his films more "up to date" or to change a character motivation (Han shooting first vs not) or trying to shoehorn references to his latter produced films. This isn't the same thing.
But i get it. I have a friend who is even more upset than you are. I feel the same way about the original series sound mix, it's not even close to the original anymore. But for 5-10 seconds of repair work, I'm not gonna get peeved over it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
 |
Posted: |
Jul 7, 2022 - 5:36 PM
|
|
|
|
By: |
Solium
(Member)
|
Probably alone on this, but geez, they really could have kept their fingers out of the Special Longer Version, that was just not necessary for them to meddle in it. The scaffold shot was part of the lore of that version, and they 'fixed it".
My understanding is that it's "fixed" as a bonus feature and is as it always was in the film itself. if that makes you feel any better.
my reading of this is opposite, the original unaltered version is just a bonus clip, the film itself was 'fixed'.
I disagree with that. This Lucas-izing of Trek, just pretty tacky to me.
Yeah, I’m not liking this trend to “improve” classic films. It’s one thing to clean up a film, another to change things that don’t need changing. Or radically altering a film because some fanboy thinks they can improve someone’s else’s work.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
The original theatrical film is still here with a 4K transfer. Other than the print remaster, no real changes were made. It's fine, it's safe, you can buy it or watch it via streaming. Nobody took it away and pretends it doesn't exist.
The DE: that's the alternate. You can choose to never watch it again. The sound mix is great. It was amazing in the movie theater. I was surprised at how good it sounded in the auditorium. A lot of the FX are disappointing and I wish there was a better effort to match the 1979 film elements. But the sound and pacing is spot on. I'm also fine with the color grading because, again, this is not replacing the original theatrical.
The SLV: the scaffolding was an embarrassment. There's no "oh my god keep it as it was meant to be seen" vibe for that shot. That was a huge f'k up that got broadcast and then sold for years. I can't believe people are upset they're not gonna see the scaffolding. That shot pulled me out of the film. Every. Time. And that was in 4:9 VHS resolution! In widescreen HD? Come on. It's a 5-10 second fix out of a nearly 3 hour film.
I get not liking the DE, hating the choices, the effects, the color grading and not being comfortable with a different sound mix. I absolutely understand that. I'm the same way with the original series. The difference is...I don't have a choice with TOS. They have not released the original mono sound mix (regardless of the advertising and the claims on the Blu Rays). Nor have they released the original color grading (they decided to accentuate Kirk's command colors towards the on-set avocado instead of going with broadcast gold). And still have not released the original episodes with the electric violin beginning and end credits on the proper episodes. All of that annoys me.
But TMP? They did nothing with the original except upgrade the print. Everything else is an alternate and for the SLV they simply fixed a horrendous gaffe that, for some reason, a group of fans want to remain. Oy.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
