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Oct 22, 2021 - 12:03 PM
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darthbrett
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Bond has just moved with the times.
The Connery Bond of the 60's was boorish, sexist, misogynist.
Roger Moore was campy and spoofish, totally unbelievable and still sexist/misogynist...maybe a bit less so.
Then he changed again for the Dalthon's and Brosnan's too.
And he changed again, to suit the times, for the Craig films.
People bleating about one against the other, for better or worse, are just stuck in their time capsule, missing the good ol' days.
Things move on. You just gotta move on with them (or stop watching).
If I could like this post 1000 times, I would!
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Oct 22, 2021 - 3:26 PM
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TheAvenger
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I find that both The Living Daylights and Licence to Kill were Bond movies that came before their time. After the Roger Moore era I think Dalton’s Bond was too edgy for fans to accept. I really like both films and think they are underrated. Licence to Kill is especially a really solid movie.
You are not wrong, sir. 
Greg
Both are among my favorite movies in the series.
Even with a more mundane 90's typical action plot of hero vs. powerful druglord and suffering from massive budget cuts Licence To Kill is fantastic.
Robert Davi makes Sanches one of the more memorable villains in the series, the henchmen are also great and Carey Lowell is one of the best Bond Girls and Q having a larger role than ever was great. And the action sequences are spectacular and well integrated to the plot (not like some of the action in TWINE for example, that simply happens out of nowhere - like the ski chase). I also love Kamen's score for the movie, the weak point was starting a trend of the composer not being involved in the title song.
I love LTK. It is gritty but still humorous, has fantastic action set pieces (the tanker stuff at the end is amazing), a great score, a lovely Bond girl, some ace Q lines, wonderful baddies (Sanchez is almost likeable - in the Scaramanga mould) and in Dalton a Bond who was actually close to Fleming’s 007 unlike the Daniel “let’s pretend he is close to the literary 007 even though he is nothing like it” Craig.
In fact the only bad thing is that fucking winking fish which is the Dalton equivalent of Sir Rog’s double-take pigeon. But I’d take a dozen blinking fishes over all the many scenes of Daniel Craig sulking around.
So wish Dalton had got to do a third Bond.
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So wish Dalton had got to do a third Bond.
I absolutely loved Dalton in the role. Post Connery, he was the most perfect fit for it. He had steel, charm, good looks but not a pretty boy, amazing acting chops and could toss off a quip with the right mix of humor and irony. He is often overlooked and down the list of Best Bonds. but he really got a raw deal following Roger's antics.
You know what I miss? The "every two years" release of a Bond epic. When the lead actor did other films between Bond flicks, not the other way around. We lost that with the Craig era. Brosnan seemed perfectly happy making them on a routine schedule. Personally, I think that's kind of necessary if you don't want your lead to age out before three or four films are done. It also gave fans something concrete to look forward to. I'm sitting here, wishing they'd start looking for the next actor because that would really put my mind at ease about the series.
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Coco314, good point!
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So wish Dalton had got to do a third Bond.
I have thought about what a third Dalton film would look like. Since we got Brosnan in GoldenEye I am glad we did not get a third Dalton film. Nothing against Dalton as I made clear I liked his movies. GoldenEye just happens to be my all time favorite James Bond movie. Pierce Brosnan was perfect for that film in my opinion. I'm glad it worked out like it did.
What would Sean Bean have been like as James Bond? I've always wondered that too.
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Oct 30, 2021 - 8:28 AM
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Coco314
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Really like this one. After a fantastic start with "Casino Royale" , I found it quite depressing that such a great new choice in Daniel Craig was making movies that were progressively worse ("Quantum of Solace" was brought down by the epileptic editing, "Skyfall" its Nolan imitations and the finale didn't make it for me, "Spectre" suffered from the desire to retcon everything).
Glad and surprised that this opus - despite its troubled production - offers a generous plot and characters with confidence - and the long running time never felt long for me as I felt constantly engaged. It's not perfect for sure - The villain is underwritten, although I think Malek nailed it by avoiding to ham it up like Javier Bardem, and was much more effective than Kristoff Waltz - the action sequences were too gunfight heavy (though the intro was great as always and actually the interrogation scene was much better than an action scene). Lea Seydoux, one of the spectacular misfires of the previous movie is actually quite good (and the characters much better written).
As for the music, I think Zimmer did a very deft job as having his style merging with the Bond sound (with the sole exception of "I'll be right back" that sounds too much from the Zimmer playbook as far as "Backdraft"). The quotes were tasteful, the fact that the song was fully integrated was a huge plus to the love story (and a welcome change), and the motive used either the action scenes or the omnious bad guy music was very fine. Good job, Hans.
After actors that either didn't have proper runs (Lazenby, Dalton) or finished on some of their worst mission (Connery, Brosnan, Moore), glad to see that Craig finished his on such a high note.
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I love the fact that he took a short section of the James Bond theme that has largely been ignored and turned it into an action motif. Brilliant Hans!
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