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It says it's only one disc. Huh?
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Its one LP in a big box full of trading cards, posters, and a tshirt!
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The original Fantasy set was 2-LPs.
It sure was and I have it in my LP collection.
I also have the original Fantasy LP and it is most definitely 2-LP's. Either that listing is a typo or there was apparently a single LP set issued at the same time.
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Its one LP in a big box full of trading cards, posters, and a tshirt!
They forgot the kitchen sink.
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Released back in the days when soundtrack albums were almost an event when produced like this was in it's original two LP format. Even some single albums had gatefold sleeves then. I've found myself digging out the nice lavish album to look at even when listening to the cd release.
And at least in this Rosenman thread we can agree that it's a score to enjoy, with or without comparisons to other LotR works.
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i had the Uk LP too. one of my few Rosenman scores. always liked his work, espec Hell is for Heroes.
i remember at my local video rental store in early 80s, after people complained, this animated film had a sticker put on the video cover "Warning: this film finishes abruptly - no refunds!"
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It doesn't look to me like it's the CD files, at least going by the program, which is identical to the original LP release burned into my head. The CD first released by Intrada put the whole thing in film order, without the single version of the main theme, and lots of additional music, including within those original tracks.
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i had the Uk LP too. one of my few Rosenman scores. always liked his work, espec Hell is for Heroes.
I remember at my local video rental store in early 80s, after people complained, this animated film had a sticker put on the video cover "Warning: this film finishes abruptly - no refunds!"
That's funny! I remember the film not getting the best of releases in the UK. I saw it on a weekday afternoon, whilst out of work, and I clearly remember one old timer, presumably drawn in by the poster which does make it look like it could be some new live action epic (but certainly not realising it was an animated film), storming out of the showing long before halfway shouting "bloody Walt Disney"!!
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Sep 19, 2015 - 2:40 AM
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John-73
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It doesn't look to me like it's the CD files, at least going by the program, which is identical to the original LP release burned into my head. The CD first released by Intrada put the whole thing in film order, without the single version of the main theme, and lots of additional music, including within those original tracks.
It says in the notes it was taken from Rosenman's remixes (the ones presumably he did for the CD release). So my guess is they resequenced it to mimic the original LP. Very few LPs today are genuinely cut via an all-analogue chain. Few houses offer that service too. Many are standard 16-bit masters played back through a DAC and then onto the LP master cutting stage. Worst of both worlds really. Stick with the CD. The advantage of LP used to be the all analogue 'sound' which is why many still love the format (though obviously flawed in other respects). But I don't have time for modern digitally sourced vinyl, unless it's from a high res source, and then cut. Just seem like a cheat to me. Cashing in on the return of a format. And most people aren't concerned about the province of exactly WHAT is on the LP. It's vinyl so it has vinyl sound 'magic' by default... sigh! If this was a true analogue release I'd be all over it, but I fear it's no more than a CD on an LP, as it were.
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Yep, I have no interest in vinyl. What surprised me is that this looks to have less music than the CD, even if it is using the CD remixes of the cues.
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Dec 27, 2015 - 9:32 PM
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I have bought and reviewed this set on the big-name online store. Here's my review, in case anyone is thinking of getting this for the wrong reasons...
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Classic soundtrack in a great-sounding, greatly overpriced package
The original soundtrack to Ralph Bakshi’s The Lord of the Rings by Leonard Rosenman was first released in 1978 as a double LP. In 1991, the soundtrack label Intrada issued a “remixed” CD version with additional tracks. And now comes this “deluxe” box set purporting to be a reproduction of the 2-LP original release – plus two posters, a small sticker, an animation cel replica, a map of Middle-earth, an LP-size booklet, and two 180g vinyl LPs.
If you suspect that all the extra stuff included here is but a merchandising tactic to justify the grossly eaggerated price tag… your suspicion is right. So let’s start with the bad: the “collectibles”. While the animation cel is rather nice if you’re into this sort of thing (I cannot judge of the quality), all the rest is pretty much crap. The large original movie poster, though attractive, is available in better-quality reproductions at poster shops. The small poster is awfully reproduced; the map is both ugly and small. The booklet is what you would expect, but the only new material (with respect to the 2001 release of the CD) are the two short write-ups about Rosenman and the making of the film. The whole package comes in a sturdy cardboard box that feels high quality. It is marred only by another misguided attempt at merchandising: a green-and-gold frame around the original album artwork telling you this is the “deluxe collectors edition”. I will personally set this large box aside (it takes valuable shelf space), keeping only the gatefold sleeve housing the two LPs (fortunately it duplicates the original LP issue) in my record collection.
The Selection: The stated aim of this vinyl edition is to replicate the original LP version; all tracks are identical, except the first one, which is slightly longer, but doesn't actually include more music (it's a reprise of the last track of the album). This doesn't matter; what matters is that, though this release uses the 1991 digital masters, the extra trakcs included on the CD not to be found here. Also, the actual end credits music as heard in the movie, remains unreleased to this day. (To hear this alternate, but better-known version of the theme, head over to the popular video streaming platform and type “Bakshi's Animated Lord of the Rings Theme”.)
The Music: Obviously you know this music and it means something to you, otherwise you would not be reading this review. Let’s just say, this is the score for the animated version of LotR made by Ralph Bakshi in 1978. It was composed by Leonard Rosenman in a classical-modernist style, and most of the selections here are either dark or warlike in tone. It can be a bit repetitive, but less so here, I feel, than on the CD. But maybe it’s just that I hadn’t heard this music in a while.
The Sound: I have not made a direct comparison with the CD, which I have heard quite a number of times. My impression, however, is that the producers have taken the 1991 masters and given them a general “boost”. Not a good thing on the face of it, but it seems to work here. The bass has more presence, but it is still tight. The high end is well-defined, occasionally it seems a bit more prominent, and the result is you can hear more instruments, or more parts, more clearly. Overall, the sound seems richer than on the CD, at least on my vinyl front-end. There is some overloading however during loud passages, most noticeably during the first and last tracks (which are identical as previously stated). This I find unforgiveable, as it sounds like a mastering error, and not just “cutting it too hot”. It does sound hot though, meaning LOUD, and I suppose inferior styli (i.e. your turntable needle) might have trouble tracking these records properly. It is difficult to say how much of this is my imagination, or the vinyl medium, but it does not sound exactly like the CD release. Overall, sound-wise, I feel they have done a respectable job for this vinyl presentation. The notes on the inside of the sleeve state: “[2015] Reissue Remastering by George Horn and Anne-Marie Suenram at Fantasy Studios”.
Buying new vinyl in 2015 can be disappointing sometimes. Quality pressings are far from being the norm. In this case, however, both LPs were clean upon first play, and they exhibit very low surface noise. Apart from the small flaws I just mentioned, they sound great throughout, just like vinyl should. And that’s a big plus. Three stars out of five.
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