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 Posted:   Jul 2, 2020 - 10:33 PM   
 By:   aldri49   (Member)

Hi - newbie here -

Singer songwriter Grace VanderWaal wrote an original song for the Disney Movie "Stargirl" which was released back in March. She was only 14 yo at the time.

Does anyone know if she is the youngest person ever to write original music for a movie soundtrack? I don't mean an entire score necessarily - she only contributed this one song. BTW, she also starred in the movie as well and sang 6 other songs which were covers.

Who else under the age of 21 has written for film? Either an entire score or partial. Thx

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2020 - 10:48 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Andre Previn wrote his first credited Hollywood film score at age 19, for a Lassie picture (The Sun Comes Up). It’s superb, but sadly only survives as a music and effects track. Here’s the main title:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/store/MP3/1320/4-01_Main_Title.mp3

Later that same year he composed a second feature score, also for a Lassie flick (Challenge to Lassie). I don’t love the score on the whole quite as much but it too has an excellent title theme:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/store/MP3/1320/4-10_Main_Title_and_Foreword.mp3

I know of younger child prodigy orchestral composers like Korngold and Enescu, but not younger credited film composers...

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2020 - 10:53 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

André Previn (April 1929 – Feb 2019) was age 19 when he wrote his score for The Sun Comes Up, which was released during the first half of 1949.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2020 - 10:57 PM   
 By:   aldri49   (Member)

André Previn (April 1929 – Feb 2019) was age 19 when he wrote his score for The Sun Comes Up, which was released during the first half of 1949.

Great to see such quick replies. Keep 'em coming.....

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2020 - 11:05 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Richard Rodney Bennett (1936 - 2012) must have started writing for British productions when still age 20, as his Pickup Alley (1957) was released about 1 month after Bennett's 21st birthday.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2020 - 1:51 AM   
 By:   Roy Donga   (Member)

Basil Poledouris’s daughter Zoe was very young (about 5?) when she composed music for Conan, she is now established with film scores of her own now.
Michael Giacchino has two young sons who have contributed to his scores including Jurassic World. The older son scored a movie for a Jim Henson production a few years ago, he’d be only about 18, not sure I don’t have my CDs to hand

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2020 - 2:42 AM   
 By:   Olivier_Lille   (Member)

I believe Philippe Sarde was 20 when he wrote the heartbreaking score for 'Les Choses de la Vie' of director Claude Sautet....

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2020 - 2:55 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Shostakovich’s first film score (New Babylon) was written when he was quite old at 23 smile but at 17 he was playing the piano in cinemas accompanying silent films which help to hone his improvisational skills.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2020 - 5:39 AM   
 By:   aldri49   (Member)

Basil Poledouris’s daughter Zoe was very young (about 5?) when she composed music for Conan, she is now established with film scores of her own now.
Michael Giacchino has two young sons who have contributed to his scores including Jurassic World. The older son scored a movie for a Jim Henson production a few years ago, he’d be only about 18, not sure I don’t have my CDs to hand


I checked Wikipedia and Zoe was 9 yo when she improvised a melody over a song written by her dad. For this she got a co-writing credit.

Seems the other example was a family affair also but I haven't checked into that yet.

Grace VanderWaal is a singer songwriter, not a serious composer, but she still is credited for her contribution to the Stargirl soundtrack. Rob Simonsen did most of the scoring. Her song "Today and Tomorrow" was written while on the set (she was 14 yo) and was only included on the soundtrack (over the closing credits) because director Julia Hart happened to like the song enough to do that.

Here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwOyZDc6A8E

Grace has been writing songs since she was 12 and is 16 now.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2020 - 5:46 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I think lil' Zoe gets the award for this, but again it depends on definition. Humming bits of a melody that her father then incorporates into a score might not be exactly what you were looking for.

I have a hard time thinking of other teens beyond Previn that did actual scoring (or songwriting) for a film. Williams was about 21 when he did YOU ARE WELCOME, but that's ancient in this company. I think Jeremy Soule was 19 when he had his first videogame gig.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2020 - 5:55 AM   
 By:   aldri49   (Member)

I think lil' Zoe gets the award for this, but again it depends on definition. Humming bits of a melody that her father then incorporates into a score might not be exactly what you were looking for.

I have a hard time thinking of other teens beyond Previn that did actual scoring (or songwriting) for a film. Williams was about 21 when he did YOU ARE WELCOME, but that's ancient in this company. I think Jeremy Soule was 19 when he had his first videogame gig.


well I know a co-writing credit can go to anyone for just changing a word in a song. Anyway, I don't care about technicalities, just curious to know who Grace is stacked up against. You guys seem to be on top of things.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2020 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   William R.   (Member)

Zoe was 8 or 9 and apparently improvised what became the horn countermelody for the "Orgy" cue on recorder or flute while Basil was playing the piano. Hopefully she didn't see the scene at the time! Would be very surprised if there was one younger.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2020 - 5:00 PM   
 By:   aldri49   (Member)

thanks, guys - I appreciate everyone's input. I should spend more time in this forum, and I will try and dig up lil' Zoe's work on Conan. Grace will probably end up giving a co-writing credit to her producer, Ido Zmishlany, but she did the lions share of the work with the song that she wrote for "Stargirl" at 14yo.

She also played the lead in the movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7cgQ-6tCMU

Her song Florets (written at 13 yo) was put to dance here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2wo_t6NSk

cheers! aldri49

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2020 - 7:01 PM   
 By:   Dylan   (Member)

Here is the "Conan: The Barbarian" cue that's been referenced, with the horn countermelody by Zoë Poledouris:

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2020 - 7:11 PM   
 By:   aldri49   (Member)

Here is the "Conan: The Barbarian" cue that's been referenced, with the horn countermelody by Zoë Poledouris:


Thank you very much! i took this to occur between 0:43 and 1:15.

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2020 - 9:38 PM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

Victor Young!

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2020 - 10:04 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

Victor Young!

Certainly the young-iest of Young composers.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2020 - 10:48 PM   
 By:   gyorgyL   (Member)

I believe Philippe Sarde was 20 when he wrote the heartbreaking score for 'Les Choses de la Vie' of director Claude Sautet....
22 wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2020 - 10:48 PM   
 By:   gyorgyL   (Member)

Victor Young!

Certainly the young-iest of Young composers.


big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2020 - 12:45 AM   
 By:   celluloid70   (Member)

The great Roy Budd wrote for the movie Soldier Blue at the grand old age of 23.

 
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