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 Posted:   Jun 29, 2021 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Yeah, the music we all remember from Quick Change is almost definitely Shore. Great fun.

 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2021 - 10:39 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Alrighty. Here is the final act of The Public Eye. A full 18 minute chunk including the end credits. This has been a real treat to go through all the cues and lay them down. Enjoy, my dudes.

Part 5:https://vimeo.com/569224304

Including - Three Months Pay (at 00:49), The Slaughter (at 3:29), Everything is True (at 11:04)
Turn it Off / Final Shot (at 13:57)

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2021 - 5:55 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Thanks for these, as always. A super fun experiment that nonetheless proves that Franklin was right. Someone else said this already, I think, but Goldsmith needed just like ONE additional idea to round out this score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2021 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

I've never seen "2 Days in the Valley," but I recall reading somewhere (and I can't locate the source at the moment) that a large part of Goldsmith's rejection was based on the studio/producers suddenly wanting to recut the film to better resemble "Pulp Fiction," which it's apparently an obvious clone of. So, unless I'm incorrect (or the source was) that was also a behind the scenes decision that had nothing (or very little) to do with test audiences.

For what it's worth, I quite like Goldsmith's "2 Days in the Valley" score on album.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2021 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I've never seen "2 Days in the Valley, but I recall reading somewhere (and I can't locate the source at the moment) that a large part of Goldsmith's rejection was based on the studio/producers suddenly wanting to recut the film to better resemble "Pulp Fiction," which it's apparently an obvious clone of. So, unless I'm incorrect (or the source was) that was also a behind the scenes decision that had nothing (or very little) to do with test audiences.

For what it's worth, I quite like Goldsmith's "2 Days in the Valley" score on album.



I’ve done a bunch of clips from that and will do more soon. I like it too. It seems as though the film wasn’t recut, just had the score replaced.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2021 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

That story sounds familiar. I like the score too, though it's not a favorite or anything.

For me when it comes to Goldsmith's 90s noir scores, City Hall > The Public Eye > 2 Days in the Valley > L.A. Confidential (which I still like, it's just a rare case of the Goldsmith score being outshone by the film itself).

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2021 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

I’ve done a bunch of clips from that and will do more soon. I like it too. It seems as though the film wasn’t recut, just had the score replaced.

Interesting, then I guess the idea to get "2 Days" to better resemble "Pulp Fiction" was just to drop Goldsmith's score, which certainly was more traditional than the "Pulp Fiction" soundtrack (and - I assume - the replacement music for "2 Days").

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2021 - 7:34 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

That story sounds familiar. I like the score too, though it's not a favorite or anything.

For me when it comes to Goldsmith's 90s noir scores, City Hall > The Public Eye > 2 Days in the Valley > L.A. Confidential (which I still like, it's just a rare case of the Goldsmith score being outshone by the film itself).

Yavar


City Hall's standout cue being barely a rewrite of On The Waterfront really soured me on that one (see also: L.A. Confidential's theme).

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2021 - 8:02 PM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)



Again...did Jarre record anything for First Knight? I don't think so. Did he even write anything, that just didn't get recorded? That would certainly be a prime candidate for a premiere recording, if so... the lost Maurice Jarre Arthurian score!


Jarre never wrote anything for First Knight. He was offered the film, but passed on it because the post-production schedule did not provide much time to write the score.

But I don't mind because he wound-up scoring A Walk in the Clouds instead, which is one of his best late career scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2021 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

I like Isham´s score, but to imagine Franklin hearing Goldsmith conducting his score on a soundstage and concluding: there are not enough themes, man, I'm going with someone else...

Simply dumb.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2021 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Great work restoring as always Mutant! Love your stuff!

I would love for you to restore James Horner's rejected ROMEO AND JULIET score into the 2013 film.

That would be Awesome!

Thanks again for all of your wonderful work over the years!

God Bless!

zoob

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2021 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Thanks again for all of your wonderful work over the years!

I second Zoob's comments. You do amazing work, Mutant. Very grateful for your endeavors.

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2021 - 8:33 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

Saw the movie first time yesterday and Isham's score is really generic and do nothing for the movie.

One just have to listen to Mutant's recriations to notice how good Goldsmith's score is whith the film.

What a dumb decision to trash it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2021 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   ray92   (Member)

Saw the movie first time yesterday and Isham's score is really generic and do nothing for the movie.

One just have to listen to Mutant's recriations to notice how good Goldsmith's score is whith the film.

What a dumb decision to trash it.


I agree!

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2021 - 9:06 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Thanks folks!

To quote The Omen “…it’s all for you!”

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2021 - 9:33 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Saw the movie first time yesterday and Isham's score is really generic and do nothing for the movie.

One just have to listen to Mutant's recriations to notice how good Goldsmith's score is whith the film.

What a dumb decision to trash it.


I agree!



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 Posted:   Jul 3, 2021 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

Saw the movie first time yesterday and Isham's score is really generic and do nothing for the movie.

One just have to listen to Mutant's recriations to notice how good Goldsmith's score is whith the film.

What a dumb decision to trash it.


Finally got to hear all of Jerry’s score the other day. After all the comments here and Mutant’s brilliant work I was really looking forward to it. Didn’t like it much. Nice main theme endlessly repeated. Different feel from the mood Mark created. It didn’t work for me at all. I thought it was particularly evident in ‘the massacre’ track. Where as Mark gave it a dark tragic feel, Jerry seemed to be going for something that would have matched Miss Marple creeping through the ‘old spooky house’ possibly followed by the Scooby Doo gang!
It might seem like I’m taking pot shots here but I honestly love a lot of Goldsmith’s scores and this is meant to be a discussion board after all.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2021 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


It might seem like I’m taking pot shots here but I honestly love a lot of Goldsmith’s scores and this is meant to be a discussion board after all.



No need to apologise for or explain about having your own opinion. It’s unlikely they’re going to put a bomb under your car. (I presume Spook isn’t your real name. Smart move.)

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2021 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Indeed no apologies needed. I always enjoy reading the discussions these videos spark.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2021 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Indeed no apologies needed. I always enjoy reading the discussions these videos spark.

Your work is always excellent, it’s no reflection on that if people think Islam did a better job than Goldsmith.

 
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