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 Posted:   May 9, 2012 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

One of the best examples of 70's soundtrack "wah-wah, wacka-wacka" sounds occur in the FSM release of McQ.




Out of print, so I'm glad I've got mine! http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/282/McQ/


(I COULD count the radio version of "The Way We Were", which was very different from the soundtrack version, and featured blatant and unrepentant moments of "wah-wah, wacka-wacka" sounds, but I won't because it didn't appear in the film or on the soundtrack and I'm being very strict here. smile )




I think there's a bit of "wah-wah, wacka-wacka" in "Get I On!" from Mancini's score for "10", but I'm not positive.

Any other examples of "wah-wah, wacka-wacka" (gawd I just love typing that big grin !!) in film scores? (awesome examples only, please. smile )


Wah-wah sound at :50

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2012 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

- Fieldings Rooftop Chase from The Enforcer. (Please see recent DH thread.)
- Headhunters Death Wish.
- JJ Johnson Across 110th St.
- Saturday Night Fever.

They're everywhere DiB. Check the recent 70s Clavinet thread for some cool ones too.

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2012 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Never really paid much attention to "McQ" - but that sound is awsome!! Gotta get me some more of that...

Another modern example - whether or not you like the movie, Shapiro did well here I thought....



Release!!!! Releeeeeaaase!!

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2012 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

That's a good one SignMe. I also like the main theme, Gotcha by Tom Scott, and that is Ray Parker Jr. playing guitar, Chuck Rainey on bass, and Steve Gadd on drums. Great 70s theme. Great 70s lineup.

Hey DiB: What about the theme to SWAT? Or the old TSOP theme for Soul Train? Or Charlie's Angels?

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2012 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Wow - what a line-up! I had no idea...

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2012 - 2:28 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

"Any movie with 'wakka-chi-wakka' in it is okay by me."

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2012 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

My dad still has a '70s wah-wah pedal. And it works. And I love it.

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2012 - 4:43 PM   
 By:   Recordman   (Member)

"Shaft" - 'nuff said

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2012 - 4:53 PM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

My dad still has a '70s wah-wah pedal. And it works. And I love it.

70s guitar gear shreds. I traded my Crybaby for two MXR pedals when I was 12: a phase-90, and an eq - the steel case ones.

The wah-wah pedal is basically a variable tone control. Up is bass-side wide-open; down is the treble-side wide-open. The signal is affected mostly with transistors (e.g., active) and resistors (e.g., potentiometer), with maybe a capacitor to relieve noise.

A way to create the "wacka-wacka" sound is to use a fully or partially muted attack at the bridge via the picking hand, while adjusting the pedal up and down. The guitar signal needs enough gain to allow the dead-ring of the muted string to produce an almost "tchk" sound that sustains - the wah-wah does the rest. The muted notes have discernable pitch, so that's a way to have fun. Here is one of the best examples I know of "wacka-wacka" sound from the 70s - it's great, and you should laugh a little (non-film).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kVdO51p50s

A volume pedal does the same thing, except with the volume (duh - jk). Grusin and Chick Corea used volume pedals on the Fender Rhodes.

 
 
 Posted:   May 10, 2012 - 4:38 AM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)

Leaving aside the obvious 'wah-wah' scores like the various Shaft films, Philip Lambro used wah wah in his Murph the Surf score, released a few years back on the Perseverance label. It's fairly prominent in this track although I don't remember it being prominent in the rest of the score:




Italian poliziotteschi scores from the '70's are a goldmine for this kind of stuff; off the top of my head, Stelvio Cipriani uses wah-wah throughout his score for Mark Il Poliziotto:




Franco Micalizzi used it extensively in many of his scores too:




Another one that just occurred to me: Alessandro Alessandroni's entire score for Sangue di Sbirro: (spot the very obvious rip-off of Shaft stylings here):




D'oh! And of course, Roy Budd wasn't averse to some wah-wah as evidenced by Who Dares Wins (aka The Final Option):




Finalyy, some more Roy Budd wah-wah, this time from his jazzy score to Diamonds; this combines wah-wah, scat vocal and bowed bass all in one:

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2012 - 1:25 AM   
 By:   Catweazle   (Member)

For me the definitive "wah-wah-wacka-wacka" Theme:



And I really would like to see a soundtrack CD for that show released...

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2012 - 2:01 AM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)

I've recently been watching some of The Streets of San Francisco on DVD and was reminded how good that whole show was. It sometimes tends to lie, somewhat unfairly, in the shadow of Hawaii Five O.

But there is no doubt that the music - both the theme and the score - is fantastic, and a lot of it (most of it even?) written by Patrick Williams himself.

I presume the music in that YouTube clip is an edit of the music that played on screen? It doesn't sound to me like the commercial version that Williams recorded and which turns up on compilation albums. That's an excellently put together montage, in any event.

Television is, of course, a gold mine for 'wah-wah' scoring.... big grin

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2012 - 3:37 AM   
 By:   Catweazle   (Member)

I've recently been watching some of The Streets of San Francisco on DVD and was reminded how good that whole show was. It sometimes tends to lie, somewhat unfairly, in the shadow of Hawaii Five O.

But there is no doubt that the music - both the theme and the score - is fantastic, and a lot of it (most of it even?) written by Patrick Williams himself.

I presume the music in that YouTube clip is an edit of the music that played on screen? It doesn't sound to me like the commercial version that Williams recorded and which turns up on compilation versions. That's an excellently put together montage, in any event.

Television is, of course, a gold mine for 'wah-wah' scoring.... big grin


No it´s the original TV Version from the first one or two seasons w/o the quinn martin trademark voice-over. And yes, it´s a mix smile I never quite liked Willams´ commercial version of it - too different from the TV Version.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2012 - 7:07 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Frontiere's score to Brannigan had some of that good stuff on it.

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2012 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)

Frontiere's score to Brannigan had some of that good stuff on it.


Mmm, Brannigan is a great score (thanks La La Land)!

I thought Frontiere was quite restrained in his use of wah-wah in that one, whereas it was far more prominent in McQ IMO...

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2012 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   SunSword   (Member)

Its way in the background of this track, but there (from Superfly TNT score by Osibisa):



Great thread, David. smile

 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2017 - 10:24 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

There's some "wah-wah, wacka-wacka" in Jerry Goldsmith's POLICE STORY. Yeah!

(I'm in the library and don't have headphones, so I can't tell if it appears in this suite.....)

 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2017 - 10:25 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)


Great thread, David. smile


Thanks, SS!

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2017 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

There's some "wah-wah, wacka-wacka" in Jerry Goldsmith's POLICE STORY. Yeah!

(I'm in the library and don't have headphones, so I can't tell if it appears in this suite.....)




Funny enough, it's actually the second note heard!

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2017 - 8:10 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

There's some "wah-wah, wacka-wacka" in Jerry Goldsmith's POLICE STORY. Yeah!

(I'm in the library and don't have headphones, so I can't tell if it appears in this suite.....)




Funny enough, it's actually the second note heard!


I can hear it now! And it all goes wah-wah-wacky at 7:30, too!

 
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