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 Posted:   Oct 11, 2013 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I think TAS1 was just fine. Not sure what the hate is about. It worked pretty well.

I loved it, too. And the score as well. A real shame that Horner was not invited back.


I have not always had the most love for the Horner, I liked his earlier work better. I respect him, just tangle back and forth with his use of his motif library.

But it was nice to hear a traditional score in an action picture, one that was not RC - Zimmer sounding with throbbing and samples all over the place. I liked the picture itself too, my kid did as well. I really liked Martin Sheen and Sally Field, and Andrew Garfield was just fine, although he is pretty much too old to be playing high school. This was one of the more enjoyable franchise pictures last year for me, and the 3d was actually pretty good as well.

Yeah, Horner should be given more work, I think it is the era we are in. Too bad.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2013 - 5:05 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

WTF!?!

http://filmmusicreporter.com/2013/10/27/pharrell-williams-joins-hans-zimmer-to-co-score-the-amazing-spider-man-2/

James

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2013 - 10:16 PM   
 By:   BackToTheFutureFan   (Member)

WTF!?!

http://filmmusicreporter.com/2013/10/27/pharrell-williams-joins-hans-zimmer-to-co-score-the-amazing-spider-man-2/

James


Yikes...

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2013 - 12:35 AM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

WTF!?!

http://filmmusicreporter.com/2013/10/27/pharrell-williams-joins-hans-zimmer-to-co-score-the-amazing-spider-man-2/

James


I suspect it's like that announcement that Jay-Z was "scoring" The Great Gatsby, which Craig Amrstrong ended up scoring, as expected. It probably just means he's writing a song for the end credits, or a couple of songs. Journalists never seem to have the slightest clue what "scoring" a film means. Whenever a pop singer/group is picked to record the latest Bond song journalists always say they are "scoring" that film as well.

 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2013 - 12:43 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

He actually co-composed "Despicable me" with Zimmer and worked on "Man of Steel".

Another case of Zimmer bringing in a "hip" artist so that the suits think he is hip as well and that his score will not be an old school-thing boring the teenagers.

 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2013 - 12:49 AM   
 By:   Hybrid Soldier   (Member)

He actually co-composed "Despicable me" with Zimmer and worked on "Man of Steel".

Another case of Zimmer bringing in a "hip" artist so that the suits think he is hip as well and that his score will not be an old school-thing boring the teenagers.


Zimmer is doing a very traditional score with Rupert Gregson-Williams on Winter's Tale.


What's your deep comment about that ?

 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2013 - 5:33 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Journalists never seem to have the slightest clue what "scoring" a film means. Whenever a pop singer/group is picked to record the latest Bond song journalists always say they are "scoring" that film as well.

Isn't that funny that journalists still don't get it? Like, let's do the absolute minimum amount of research for every one of these news stories.

 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2013 - 6:46 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

He actually co-composed "Despicable me" with Zimmer and worked on "Man of Steel".

Another case of Zimmer bringing in a "hip" artist so that the suits think he is hip as well and that his score will not be an old school-thing boring the teenagers.


Zimmer is doing a very traditional score with Rupert Gregson-Williams on Winter's Tale.


What's your deep comment about that ?


Another case of Zimmer bringing in one of his disciples so that the suits think he can handle anything.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   Trent Easton Navarro   (Member)

He actually co-composed "Despicable me" with Zimmer and worked on "Man of Steel".

Another case of Zimmer bringing in a "hip" artist so that the suits think he is hip as well and that his score will not be an old school-thing boring the teenagers.


Zimmer is doing a very traditional score with Rupert Gregson-Williams on Winter's Tale.


What's your deep comment about that ?


Traditional you say? With an orchestra with woodwinds and no synth overlays which make it sound Hans' minions just used a synth? With themes and no droning? I'll believe it when I hear it

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   Trent Easton Navarro   (Member)

Looks like Pharrell won't be the only one helping Zimmer. Joining them are Johnny Marr (The Smiths), Mike Einziger (Incubus) and Dave Stewart.

http://variety.com/2013/music/news/hans-zimmer-enlists-pharrell-williams-and-co-to-score-amazing-spider-man-2-1200782302/

Guess it will be really different than Horner's score and I have a feeling the end result will just sound like every other Zimmer score even though he gathered some great collaborators.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 11:36 PM   
 By:   Drawgoon   (Member)

Looks like Pharrell won't be the only one helping Zimmer. Joining them are Johnny Marr (The Smiths), Mike Einziger (Incubus) and Dave Stewart.

Sounds like "The Amazing Rock Band". But then again, with Electro serving as the film's main antagonist, this choice is hardly a surprise. A symphonic rock score, perhaps?

 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2013 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   orion_mk3   (Member)

Even though I'm sure that the artists that have been mentioned will be nothing more than songwriters or soloists, you have to admire Invader Zimmer's PR machine. I've heard more about the music for the upcoming The Unnecessary Spider-Man 2 in the usual news and entertainment channels than I have about all the other Spidey movies combined.

I suppose that's a crucial cog in the RC/MV machine, generating public interest through endless interviews and the early announcement of big names. How could an introvert like Horner, who rarely even gives an interview, compete with that? Especially when they're trying their hardest to reverse the lukewarm reception that The Unneccessary Spider-Man 1 got from cinemagoers?

 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2013 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   Microceratops   (Member)


You got a point there.

 
 Posted:   Nov 4, 2013 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Remember that most Spiderman movies or shows were scored with what was popular music at the time. From the '60s big band jazz theme to Stu Phillips' '70s jazzy pop intro, Spidey has always been about what's current. I was never too fond of Elfman's over-the-top choral inspired work for Raimi's Spiderman so to be quite honest, I think this is up Zimmer's alley.

The only thing I didn't care for was Pharrell Williams' sycophantic blurb about Zimmer. As I mentioned on FB, I think Zimmer is clever for sure. A genuis? No. That word for me describes Herrmann, Williams, Goldsmith, Stravinsky, Mahler, Beethoven, Charlie Parker, you know, those guys. But clever ain't bad in my books either to be clear.


 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2013 - 10:12 AM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)

Remember that most Spiderman movies or shows were scored with what was popular music at the time. From the '60s big band jazz theme to Stu Phillips' '70s jazzy pop intro, Spidey has always been about what's current. I was never too fond of Elfman's over-the-top choral inspired work for Raimi's Spiderman so to be quite honest, I think this is up Zimmer's alley.



I didn't find anything WRONG with Elfman's score for first two Raimi films. It suited those kind of movies perfectly, imho. And personally Webb and co. should've stucked with Horner. I found his AS-M score to be the superhero score of the most quality from 2012. It seems they want a more contemporary approach for the sequel score. I wouldn't mind seeing a collaboration between Horner (instead of Zimmer) with Williams, Marr,etc. Might've been interesting and unique. Besides Zimmer probably has a shorthand with Williams and Marr so I'm not expecting anything special. With that said this score could be either great or really bad. So I'm of two minds about this approach. It's just a shame that they're breaking continuity from Horner's amazing score.

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   Oscarilbo   (Member)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbp3Ra3Yp74

The first trailer is here, and apparently not with Zimmer's music yet,

but...

there's this site, where you can here what may be Zimmer`s music, once you click on Electro.

http://www.theamazingspiderman.com/site/#characters/max-dillon

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Even though I'm sure that the artists that have been mentioned will be nothing more than songwriters or soloists, you have to admire Invader Zimmer's PR machine. I've heard more about the music for the upcoming The Unnecessary Spider-Man 2 in the usual news and entertainment channels than I have about all the other Spidey movies combined.

I suppose that's a crucial cog in the RC/MV machine, generating public interest through endless interviews and the early announcement of big names. How could an introvert like Horner, who rarely even gives an interview, compete with that? Especially when they're trying their hardest to reverse the lukewarm reception that The Unneccessary Spider-Man 1 got from cinemagoers?


There is wide misperception that Amazing Spiderman (1) got lukewarm reception, or failed. It made $750 million worldwide, which means it was enormously profitable, making $200 something million for the studio.

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

There is wide misperception that Amazing Spiderman (1) got lukewarm reception, or failed. It made $750 million worldwide, which means it was enormously profitable, making $200 something million for the studio.

It also made the least amount of all the Spider-Man movies and was derided as being dull and an unnessessary origin story.

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   orion_mk3   (Member)

There is wide misperception that Amazing Spiderman (1) got lukewarm reception, or failed. It made $750 million worldwide, which means it was enormously profitable, making $200 something million for the studio.

"Lukewarm" is subjective. Consider:

Spider-Man 1:
$1,047,000,000 worldwide (inflation adjusted for 2012)
$181,000,000 inflation adjusted budget
$866,000,000 gross inflation adjusted profit

Spider-Man 2:
$951,000,000 worldwide (inflation adjusted for 2012)
$243,000,000 inflation adjusted budget
$708,000,000 gross inflation adjusted profit

Spider-Man 3:
$985,000,000 worldwide (inflation adjusted for 2012)
$288,000,000 inflation adjusted budget
$697,000,000 gross inflation adjusted profit

vs.

The Unnecessary Spider-Man:
$752,000,000 worldwide (2012 dollars)
$230,000,000 budget
$522,000,000 gross profit

The budget was approximately the same and they made nearly $200 million less, net, than the lowest-grossing prequel. Not exactly enough to put anyone in the poorhouse, but clearly not pulling its weight compared to other Marvel properties.

 
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