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Oct 11, 2013 - 7:25 AM
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Ado
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I think TAS1 was just fine. Not sure what the hate is about. It worked pretty well.
I loved it, too. And the score as well. A real shame that Horner was not invited back.
I have not always had the most love for the Horner, I liked his earlier work better. I respect him, just tangle back and forth with his use of his motif library.
But it was nice to hear a traditional score in an action picture, one that was not RC - Zimmer sounding with throbbing and samples all over the place. I liked the picture itself too, my kid did as well. I really liked Martin Sheen and Sally Field, and Andrew Garfield was just fine, although he is pretty much too old to be playing high school. This was one of the more enjoyable franchise pictures last year for me, and the 3d was actually pretty good as well.
Yeah, Horner should be given more work, I think it is the era we are in. Too bad.
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He actually co-composed "Despicable me" with Zimmer and worked on "Man of Steel".
Another case of Zimmer bringing in a "hip" artist so that the suits think he is hip as well and that his score will not be an old school-thing boring the teenagers.
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He actually co-composed "Despicable me" with Zimmer and worked on "Man of Steel".
Another case of Zimmer bringing in a "hip" artist so that the suits think he is hip as well and that his score will not be an old school-thing boring the teenagers.
Zimmer is doing a very traditional score with Rupert Gregson-Williams on Winter's Tale.
What's your deep comment about that ?
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Journalists never seem to have the slightest clue what "scoring" a film means. Whenever a pop singer/group is picked to record the latest Bond song journalists always say they are "scoring" that film as well.
Isn't that funny that journalists still don't get it? Like, let's do the absolute minimum amount of research for every one of these news stories.
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He actually co-composed "Despicable me" with Zimmer and worked on "Man of Steel".
Another case of Zimmer bringing in a "hip" artist so that the suits think he is hip as well and that his score will not be an old school-thing boring the teenagers.
Zimmer is doing a very traditional score with Rupert Gregson-Williams on Winter's Tale.
What's your deep comment about that ?
Another case of Zimmer bringing in one of his disciples so that the suits think he can handle anything.
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He actually co-composed "Despicable me" with Zimmer and worked on "Man of Steel".
Another case of Zimmer bringing in a "hip" artist so that the suits think he is hip as well and that his score will not be an old school-thing boring the teenagers.
Zimmer is doing a very traditional score with Rupert Gregson-Williams on Winter's Tale.
What's your deep comment about that ?
Traditional you say? With an orchestra with woodwinds and no synth overlays which make it sound Hans' minions just used a synth? With themes and no droning? I'll believe it when I hear it
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You got a point there.
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Remember that most Spiderman movies or shows were scored with what was popular music at the time. From the '60s big band jazz theme to Stu Phillips' '70s jazzy pop intro, Spidey has always been about what's current. I was never too fond of Elfman's over-the-top choral inspired work for Raimi's Spiderman so to be quite honest, I think this is up Zimmer's alley.
The only thing I didn't care for was Pharrell Williams' sycophantic blurb about Zimmer. As I mentioned on FB, I think Zimmer is clever for sure. A genuis? No. That word for me describes Herrmann, Williams, Goldsmith, Stravinsky, Mahler, Beethoven, Charlie Parker, you know, those guys. But clever ain't bad in my books either to be clear.
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Dec 5, 2013 - 1:02 PM
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orion_mk3
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There is wide misperception that Amazing Spiderman (1) got lukewarm reception, or failed. It made $750 million worldwide, which means it was enormously profitable, making $200 something million for the studio.
"Lukewarm" is subjective. Consider:
Spider-Man 1:
$1,047,000,000 worldwide (inflation adjusted for 2012)
$181,000,000 inflation adjusted budget
$866,000,000 gross inflation adjusted profit
Spider-Man 2:
$951,000,000 worldwide (inflation adjusted for 2012)
$243,000,000 inflation adjusted budget
$708,000,000 gross inflation adjusted profit
Spider-Man 3:
$985,000,000 worldwide (inflation adjusted for 2012)
$288,000,000 inflation adjusted budget
$697,000,000 gross inflation adjusted profit
vs.
The Unnecessary Spider-Man:
$752,000,000 worldwide (2012 dollars)
$230,000,000 budget
$522,000,000 gross profit
The budget was approximately the same and they made nearly $200 million less, net, than the lowest-grossing prequel. Not exactly enough to put anyone in the poorhouse, but clearly not pulling its weight compared to other Marvel properties.
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