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 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)

This thread has got completely ridiculous.

A ridiculous thread to accompany a ridiculously hyped movie in which an alien (who happens to be White and 'merican!) is JESUS (literally, with Hack Zack's illiterate heavy handed directing style) while showing off his crotch in a tight suit.

Seem legit.

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 3:03 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)


Hah, even YOR has bad taste in films sometime.


Nobody is perfect, my dear facehugger!

Not even YOR!

YOR likes "Judge Dredd" too!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   nerfTractor   (Member)

You can listen to most of this on Spotify, which I did the other day. It's fine, I suppose. Slightly better than average for Zimmer, but nothing groundbreaking. If you like his sound, well here is some more of it. I will listen again but I am glad I didn't have to pay full price for the CD's.

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   yonythemoony   (Member)

Look, Zack Snyder is not your classic director! Just watch him in those interviews. All those Tattoos!

What does he know about a Symphony Orchestra!?

What does 95% of the teenage population know about a Symphony Orchestra?

He is out to please them!

What does he know about a Symphony Orchestra!?


He uses it, though. Especially in Legend Of The Guardians. And he and the 95% of the teenage population is much more open minded about music than you.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   maximus_rh   (Member)

I saw the film last night, and thought it was quite bad. Diverting enough for the first hour but with a completely deadening last hour of ACTION-AND-NOTHING-ELSE that caused even the more impressive battle material to fade into relentless tedium. I did quite like the score though (must admit that I'm largely a zimmer fan) even if it descended into 'bland loud noise' more than I'd hoped. The largely positive reviews are getting me down I have to admit, am I finally out of touch with the mainstream blockbuster? (I'm only 26!). Having said that, I went to see After Earth tonight which I really quite enjoyed (and which the critics savaged), so maybe I just have unusual taste!

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

You are free to dislike and making your own opinions about the Zimmer score but at no point do you or ANYONE have any right to tell a film maker that they know nothing about the choices they make for their film.


Totally agree.
In this forum I've read the most absurd statements about Nolan (few about Snyder), not to mention those about Zimmer and also filled my "ignore list", as I've never done before, with a big bunch of the most arrogant guys posting here around.
But - as good old Jeff Bond says - it's not an FSM thread if there are no trolls.

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 5:06 PM   
 By:   Landstander   (Member)

Just saw it. Enjoyed it quite a bit. Also enjoyed the Zimmer too.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)

You are free to dislike and making your own opinions about the Zimmer score but at no point do you or ANYONE have any right to tell a film maker that they know nothing about the choices they make for their film.


Totally agree.
In this forum I've read the most absurd statements about Nolan (few about Snyder), not to mention those about Zimmer and also filled my "ignore list", as I've never done before, with a big bunch of the most arrogant guys posting here around.
But - as good old Jeff Bond says - it's not an FSM thread if there are no trolls.


I like how bad taste is usually defended under the banner of "please keep an open-mind", "just your opinion" and "you have NO RIGHT to tell a filmmaker that he's doing a lousy job".

I also particularly like how YOR and co. limit their bashing to the capability of Zimmer (a public figure) and the merits of his music, while YOR's apparently "respectful" opponents have to result in name-calling and pitchfork waiving personal attacks.

Please surprise YOR and co. by giving a detailed analysis of why Zimmer's "Hope/S-man" is great, like what Mike West did.

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   yonythemoony   (Member)

You are free to dislike and making your own opinions about the Zimmer score but at no point do you or ANYONE have any right to tell a film maker that they know nothing about the choices they make for their film.


Totally agree.
In this forum I've read the most absurd statements about Nolan (few about Snyder), not to mention those about Zimmer and also filled my "ignore list", as I've never done before, with a big bunch of the most arrogant guys posting here around.
But - as good old Jeff Bond says - it's not an FSM thread if there are no trolls.


Exactly. And they did the same thing with Harry Potter. If John Williams wouldn't have scored any of these films, they wouldn't be whining. It's time to move on.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 5:22 PM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)


Hah, even YOR has bad taste in films sometime.


Nobody is perfect, my dear facehugger!

Not even YOR!

YOR likes "Judge Dredd" too!!


I love Judge Dredd too.

But some films are so bad that they're good, and some are just plainly bad.

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   yonythemoony   (Member)

The largely positive reviews are getting me down I have to admit, am I finally out of touch with the mainstream blockbuster? (I'm only 26!). Having said that, I went to see After Earth tonight which I really quite enjoyed (and which the critics savaged), so maybe I just have unusual taste!

57% in Rotten Tomatoes it's not largely positive reviews. I agree with After Earth, though. Terribly underrated, both film and score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 5:26 PM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)



Exactly. And they did the same thing with Harry Potter. If John Williams wouldn't have scored any of these films, they wouldn't be whining. It's time to move on.


If John Williams hadn't score any of those films, Desplat probably wouldn't have a contrast to show his second-rate capability. And of course people would have stopped whining.

I never whined when Desplat took over Twilight 2 because it's a shit franchise with mediocre music to begin with.

Harry Potter on the other hand...

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 6:13 PM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

The largely positive reviews are getting me down I have to admit, am I finally out of touch with the mainstream blockbuster? (I'm only 26!). Having said that, I went to see After Earth tonight which I really quite enjoyed (and which the critics savaged), so maybe I just have unusual taste!

57% in Rotten Tomatoes it's not largely positive reviews. I agree with After Earth, though. Terribly underrated, both film and score.


I went into AFTER EARTH with an open mind but when the damn film sets up everything in the first 10 mins on how EXACTLY the finale act will play...it took ALL of the tension out for me. Also I feel the film isn't actually being savaged for poor reasons and most if not all rest on the Jaden Smith who MUST carry the film and simply cannot. Will Smith himself somehow lacks all charm and charisma and both fall flat.

More power to you if you enjoyed the film and score but both did nothing for me.

Shame about that Headphone track frown

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 6:24 PM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

You are free to dislike and making your own opinions about the Zimmer score but at no point do you or ANYONE have any right to tell a film maker that they know nothing about the choices they make for their film.


Totally agree.
In this forum I've read the most absurd statements about Nolan (few about Snyder), not to mention those about Zimmer and also filled my "ignore list", as I've never done before, with a big bunch of the most arrogant guys posting here around.
But - as good old Jeff Bond says - it's not an FSM thread if there are no trolls.


I like how bad taste is usually defended under the banner of "please keep an open-mind", "just your opinion" and "you have NO RIGHT to tell a filmmaker that he's doing a lousy job".


I'm not sure if we are on the same side of this argument truth be told but you right "bad taste" but by whom is this taste level made a standard?

Since I made the "you have no right to attack a filmmaker" comment let me clarify:

You can disagree and flat out hate a film for whatever reason you have but mind you, they are your reasons. For example if I find a film poorly written, I lay out my problems with the story but at no point do I have any ground to tell the writer he wrote his story wrong; I can state what I found wrong with it and what didn't connect with me or what I felt lacking.

Everyone can feel free to dislike this score and Hans Zimmer and the wall of sound or the dated sound or how boring it is. All are perfectly acceptable and honestly more power to you.

But how can anyone without personal relation to these two men attack them by saying statements that imply they themselves understand the music better then the man who created it and the man who commissioned it for "his" film? This is going almost beyond critic and as seems to be the norm for some here... it is just insulting to the artists.

What makes me laugh about this is if some of you who claim to "know better" actually were in charge we'd never get film scores that elevate or SURPASS the finished product since the composer missed the memo he was scoring a terrible film.

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 6:49 PM   
 By:   Landstander   (Member)

Would it kill Zimmer to arrange his albums in chronological order?

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 6:49 PM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

Bummer - I ordered the CD, although I do much prefer clean endings.[/endquote

I bought it from AMAZON.com and it comes with AutoRip which included for me a free digital download of the score and thankfully it is indeed a clean rip much like the iTunes version.

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 6:57 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Horrible music.

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 7:21 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

Totally agree.
In this forum I've read the most absurd statements about Nolan (few about Snyder), not to mention those about Zimmer and also filled my "ignore list", as I've never done before, with a big bunch of the most arrogant guys posting here around.
But - as good old Jeff Bond says - it's not an FSM thread if there are no trolls.


YOR gets quite amused to see how the vast majority of zimmerities are so touchy and insecure about their beloved master.

That show YOR that they are not very sure that their master is that good, otherwise they would never get so hysterical everytime someone with superior intelect bashes the abominable.

YOR, for example, loves Jerry Goldsmith but he never get angry when someone with bad taste say nasty things about him. YOR has a lot of good arguments to defend the master. So why get so mad?

YOR feel a little sorry for all the zimmerities. He can understand their pain.

Here, lets us all drink some good old dinossaur blood and be happy!

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 7:22 PM   
 By:   yonythemoony   (Member)

Would it kill Zimmer to arrange his albums in chronological order?

That's why I haven't listened to the CD. Zimmer's CDs have been terrible lately, his scores are butchered in them. I bet that the score has a better balance in the movie than in the CD.

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 7:27 PM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

I started to listen to this and 4 tracks into it, I had to turn it off... it was nothing but noise to my ears. I'd rather listen to Superman Returns score than this Turd Of Steel.

 
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