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It's directly on Jay-Z; you're giving a comparrison on whether somebody like him could score, by bringing up Daft Punk and Danny Elfman, based on apabilities. Otherwise this is the wierdest paragraph with oddly coincidental combinations I've ever seen.
Isn't the connection that all three were musicians who were successful in other areas of music before getting into film scoring? We don't know how Jay-Z will do, but the other two worked out pretty well.
Often by other filmmusic professionals, many of whom were incapable of producing anything a 10th as interesting, but who might have, as you said, had "the skill, spen[t] a ton on schooling, and struggle to even get ONE assignment."
Well, their opinions are just that: opinions. The proof is in the pudding.
Wait, what pudding? Whose opinions? What are we talking about? Which two composer's puddings are we comparing? When do opinions ever count as "proof?" WHAT'S HAPPENING??!!?
...but I think of the big name composers with real talent, Herrmann, Rozsa, Goldsmith, Williams, Rosenman, Waxman, etc., and I can't recall any of them shooting their siblings, selling drugs. They may not have ad the most winning personalities, and may have had some harsh words here and there, but the true talent seems to go hand-in-hand with a certain general direction of living.
Good point. I'm sure none of the guys you mentioned ever did any drugs, or drank too much, cheated on their wives, or did anything even the least bit unsavory.
And to anybody: there's been plenty of lousy films with good or great scores. This will suck the monkey balls that some of of us suspect, but that doesn't mean we can't have a good score out of it. All is not lost yet, we could still end up with the Armstrong score.
Again, I'm no Baz Luhrmann fan, but we have no way of knowing that the film is going to be bad or that the music for it will be even worse until both are closer to being finished.
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Wow, some of you guys have 99 problems, but a bitch DEFINITELY ain't one.
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Wow, some of you guys have 99 problems, but a bitch DEFINITELY ain't one.
LOL!
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It's time to give the industry an intervention I think.
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Isn't pushing back a film (from Christmas 2012 to Spring/Summer 2013) usually a bad sign?
Well... yes.
Something else that occurred to me: people queried using Daft Punk to score Tron: Legacy, but using electronic music specialists for a film set almost entirely in a video game environment does make sense.
True. But "The Great Gatsby" is set in the 1920´s when rap was not the hip music at all.
Then again, it´s the Baz Luhrmann´s 1920´s - so it makes sense.
The real question is: will it work? Or will it be so jarringly unfitting that it hurts the movie?
Right now, I think the trailer would have worked (for me) much better with music from the 20´s.
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Geez, so strong reactions for a score no one hasn't even HEARD yet?
In these parts? Absolutely!
The litany of apoplectic reactions that spring up like clockwork when a non-film score composer gets work as a film score composer makes for amusing, if somewhat tedious, reading. "Oh, the humanity!"  Boo-hoo. So Williams, Horner, Elfman, Greenwood, McCreary, Wintoury, Reznor, some unknown composer, or [insert your favorite composer here] didn't get the gig. Does it really matter that much? Flying Spaghetti Monster forbid that an "other" gets to play on the Sacred Film Score Playground! Does anyone here even listen to Jay Z or know anything about his contributions to the musical landscape beyond what Wikipedia says? Does anyone here besides me and one other person listen to Hip-Hop? (FULL DISCLOSURE: I listen to Old School and Golden Era Hip-Hop. I've never even heard Jay Z; he came around after I moved on to other genres.)
How many new hours of film, televsion, and video game music will be created in 2013? How much more will be released that's never been released before, period? Is it really so awful and world-shattering that Jay Z will contribute (maybe) 40-60 minutes to it? Will La-La Land shutter their doors when Jay Z drops his score? (Probably not.) Will Jay Z's score rock the film score community to its roots, ushering in a new era where other Hip-Hop luminaries such as Humpty Hump, B-Real, Erick Sermon, Slick Rick, and Bushwick Bill will force the Williams, Zimmers, and Horners to the fringe to scrape by, scoring only SyFy Original movies? (Unlikely.) Will Jay Z buy LLL's catalog and distribute it via his Roc-A-Fella label? (Doubtful. He does have oodles of cash, though...he could fund that DS9 "Complete Series Score Box Set" that I pine for....) Will Jay Z's music utterly destroy my enjoyment of LLL's imminent DS9 release? (Hell no!) Will Jay Z's score destroy the enjoyment I get listening to the scores I have now? (Um, no.)
We made it through the Mayan Apocalypse, but we didn't stop to consider Jay Z's film score! Oh my Science!
Back to the rabble....
EDIT: I see some of you know and listen to Jay Z. Please disregard and/or enjoy my sarcasm! 
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He, he....excellent post, Penelope! 
For the record, I like some hip hop too -- especially old-school like Grandmaster Flash, Sugar Hill Gang, Run DMC, Public Enemy etc.
One should also be aware that just because Jay Z has a background as a hip hop artist, doesn't mean the score is going to sound like any given chart hit. Just listen to the stuff RZA has done, especially the superb GHOST DOG: WAY OF THE SAMURAI.
Let's just wait untill we announce the film music apocalypse, shall we?
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He, he....excellent post, Penelope!
For the record, I like some hip hop too -- especially old-school like Grandmaster Flash, Sugar Hill Gang, Run DMC, Public Enemy etc.
Very nice, very nice! I still listen to all my hip-hop stuff every day. The first concert I ever attended was a Run-DMC and Naughty by Nature show....
One should also be aware that just because Jay Z has a background as a hip hop artist, doesn't mean the score is going to sound like any given chart hit. Just listen to the stuff RZA has done, especially the superb GHOST DOG: WAY OF THE SAMURAI.
Excellent point. Just because an artist makes their bread in butter in one specific area, it doesn't follow that they don't have musical skills in other genres. If anything, I would hope that (1) Jay Z produces something worthwhile and (2) even if he doesn't win "approval" from film score aficionados, his effort may spur an interest (however small) in film scores from his regular hip-hop fans, thereby ensuring that younger ears will discover what most here already have--great film and televsion scores and composers.
To spin it another way, Jay Z could inevitably be a "gateway drug" to the wacky, obsessive world of film score collecting! Ah yes....
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