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 Posted:   Jul 31, 2014 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE and DONOVAN'S REEF by Cyril Mockridge ????

Well, wouldn't THAT be something to dance a jig about.




Wow! What a wonderful cd Bruce! smile

I always wanted Liberty Valance and never thought it would happen. And Donovan's Reef is a great bonus too! First saw Liberty Valance about 50 years ago, now I'll have the music!

Thanks for keeping the golden age alive Bruce! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2014 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE and DONOVAN'S REEF by Cyril Mockridge ????



Great detective work Cody.

But you'll have to admit, I sort of set it up for you! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2014 - 3:54 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

If that pleases you,it's OK by me. I still say we were led to believe that the next release, this release, was going to be a western from Paramount and GOLDEN AGE. Nevertheless, it is a CD I will purchase.Best wishes, Cody.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2014 - 4:14 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

If that pleases you,it's OK by me. I still say we were led to believe that the next release, this release, was going to be a western from Paramount and GOLDEN AGE. Nevertheless, it is a CD I will purchase.Best wishes, Cody.



You know I was just kidding Cody. I'm sure we will both enjoy the Mockridge cd and will have a golden age Paramount western cd to look forward to down the road. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2014 - 7:52 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

PFK, I consider you a friend. You don't have to tell me you were only kidding. I'm not Cody Jarrett. As I once mentioned, I took the name cody to honor my favorite actor. There was a time about 20 years ago when I thought Robert De Niro would rank up there with James Cagney, but a lot of his later films have left me disappointed.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2014 - 5:10 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

I still say we were led to believe that the next release, this release, was going to be a western from Paramount and GOLDEN AGE.

I don’t really understand this comment because the definition of Golden Age and Silver Age film music is very arbitrary. As a very active composer throughout the '30s, '40s and ‘50s, I see no reason why Cyril Mockbridge's scores from 1962 and 1963 can’t be considered Golden Age scores. Are scores such as KING OF KINGS, EL CID, TARAS BULBA and FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE from undoubtably Golden Age composers not considered Golden Age scores simply because they were composed in the early ‘60s? It might make more sense to define Golden/Silver ages in respect of the composer’s style rather than any specific decade.

It was Lukas Kendall who coined the terms Golden Age and Silver Age for film music. The split was always fairly meaningless but it was a useful marketing tool and the terms caught on with fans and labels alike. As Lukas once said

“For now we've been defining Golden Age as '30s through the '50s and the Silver Age as the '60s and '70s -- but they can overlap depending on the composer and the genre/aesthetic in question (FSM Mailbag 6/13/2000).

I like this comment on an old FSM thread from David Schecter:

“Golden Age and Silver Age are arbitrary terms. Rozsa scored films in the '70s and '80s, so were those "Silver Age" scores, and what he scored in the '50s were "Golden Age" scores? They all sounded (brilliantly) similar. Bernstein's "The Great Escape" is a "Silver Age" score, but his "The Buccaneer" is a "Golden Age" score? They both sound like Elmer Bernstein scores and are very similar in execution.

What one person labels a "Silver Age" will be considered a "Golden Age" by somebody else. They're really rather worthless terms, if you ask me. I think "Star Wars" is a Golden Age score, because John Williams basically gave us 1930s Erich Wolfgang Korngold all over again”.


I also like this thread on the subject (only because I contributed to it of course!)

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=100554&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2014 - 7:21 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

Maybe this "age" thing is a slightly silly topic -- but not half as silly as some of the other things discussed hereabouts! Taxonomy is a potentially useful pursuit. My suggestion would be to forget about individual scores. There will always be outliers. Think about the composers' careers instead. If we simply consider that composers who became active after about 1950 belong to the Silver Age, there will be fewer problems. This would include, most importantly, Alex North and Elmer Bernstein but also Rosenman, Moross, Stevens, Mancini, and all the jazz guys.

The year 1950 is convenient, but 1948 would also do nicely. That was the year the Supreme Court upheld (in U.S. v. Paramount Pictures) the Consent Decree of 1940, thereby signaling the beginning of the end of the old studio system.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2014 - 2:44 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Holy Moly how did I miss this?

Cyril Mockridge on TWO John Ford films. One shot where I went for my honeymoon, Kauai.

You have now officially picked up the ball where FSM and Varese left off.

What you say, all those other Golden Age releases you have released didn't count?

Yeah, you had to reach a certain number to leave the others in the dust. For me you have reached it. Cough, cough! I'm allergic to dust. Must be from you dancing so many jigs.

Total congrats to Kritzerland!




"You have now officially picked up the ball where FSM and Varese left off."



Yes indeed! Kritzerland has filled that void for a few years now! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2014 - 2:45 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)



Cut it off where you please, Golden Age rules! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2014 - 6:58 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

So, let me get these rules clear: I'm in my 60s so that means I'm Silver Age?

And if Lukas Kendall is indeed responsible for this, I say we tie him to a tree and make him listen to the theme from Gilligan's Island five hundred times in a row.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2014 - 7:01 PM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE and DONOVAN'S REEF by Cyril Mockridge ????

Well, wouldn't THAT be something to dance a jig about.


When will this be available for order?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2014 - 7:36 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE and DONOVAN'S REEF by Cyril Mockridge ????

Well, wouldn't THAT be something to dance a jig about.


When will this be available for order?


I thought you'd never ask! Monday morning.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2014 - 8:56 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE and DONOVAN'S REEF by Cyril Mockridge ????

Well, wouldn't THAT be something to dance a jig about.


When will this be available for order?


I thought you'd never ask! Monday morning.




My order will be in! Great release Bruce! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


Bruce, any word when Centennial Summer will ship?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Bruce, any word when Centennial Summer will ship?

We're hoping they'll be here by Wednesday

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE and DONOVAN'S REEF by Cyril Mockridge ????

Well, wouldn't THAT be something to dance a jig about.


When will this be available for order?


I thought you'd never ask! Monday morning.




My order will be in! Great release Bruce! smile



Does the DONAVAN's REEF score have that lovely chant heard frequently in the film?

Definitely getting this.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE and DONOVAN'S REEF by Cyril Mockridge ????

Well, wouldn't THAT be something to dance a jig about.


When will this be available for order?


I thought you'd never ask! Monday morning.




My order will be in! Great release Bruce! smile



Does the DONAVAN's REEF score have that lovely chant heard frequently in the film?

Definitely getting this.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 12:15 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE and DONOVAN'S REEF by Cyril Mockridge ????

Well, wouldn't THAT be something to dance a jig about.


When will this be available for order?


I thought you'd never ask! Monday morning.




My order will be in! Great release Bruce! smile



Does the DONAVAN's REEF score have that lovely chant heard frequently in the film?

Definitely getting this.


Yep - it's complete.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Bruce, any word when Centennial Summer will ship?

We're hoping they'll be here by Wednesday




Thanks Bruce, I'm looking forward to it.



Hmmm, John, Check your spelling on "Donovan" ....... smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2014 - 7:26 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Good morning Bruce. Was CENTENNIAL SUMMER shipped on Wednesday,August 6th as hoped for ?

 
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