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 Posted:   May 10, 2021 - 11:08 PM   
 By:   Mose Harper   (Member)

So the extra material amounts to just shy of 7 minutes for The Stripper-
23. Should I? 1:29
33 Should I? / The Dancing Lesson (Film Combo) 3:04
34 Pacer’s Farewell
(From Flaming Star) 2:26

 
 
 Posted:   May 10, 2021 - 11:28 PM   
 By:   Big X   (Member)

Look for more “GOLDSMITH AT 20th” releases coming soon from La-La Land Records!

Love the quote from LLL, hoping that one of these will be the 'Omen' trilogy scores, an excellent Black Friday release!

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 3:40 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Love the quote from LLL, hoping that one of these will be the 'Omen' trilogy scores, an excellent Black Friday release!

Probably expect A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, etc. And no doubt another version of The Blue Max!

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 3:41 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

So the extra material amounts to just shy of 7 minutes for The Stripper-
23. Should I? 1:29
33 Should I? / The Dancing Lesson (Film Combo) 3:04
34 Pacer’s Farewell
(From Flaming Star) 2:26


So, basically, rebuying this for 2:26. Great.

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 3:44 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

But they've nearly doubled the length of S*P*Y*S !!!!!
Can't say that's a good thing though big grin

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 6:09 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

no doubt another version of The Blue Max!

Releasing it TWICE as part of this series, I don't think so.

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   Boff100   (Member)

I've always thought of S*P*Y*S as a 70's version of the Flint scores.

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

As a life-long Elvis (and Don Siegel) fan I must say its great to get that final music cue from Flaming Star, (a release of the full soundtrack would have been even better, lol). Many thanks La La Land! I also am looking forward to the extra music from S*P*Y*S, a film and score I have always enjoyed, I have the American DVD with Goldsmith's fun score in situ!

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 8:42 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

So the extra material amounts to just shy of 7 minutes for The Stripper-
23. Should I? 1:29
33 Should I? / The Dancing Lesson (Film Combo) 3:04


Maybe 1:29 of non-Goldsmith for The Stripper, unless track 23 is a variant he arranged. Track 33 already appears on FSM as track 10 The Dancing Lesson (includes "Should I" by Nacio Herb Brown & Arthur Freed) 3:01

For disc 1, the new Goldsmith is


34 Pacer’s Farewell
(From Flaming Star) 2:26

So, basically, rebuying this for 2:26. Great.


I think disc 1 is about bringing The Stripper back into print, perhaps with a sonic upgrade, given Mike Matessino's involvement. As for the whole package, add the expanded (also likely sonically upgraded) * * * .

(That's how it's spelled, right? ... no wait...)

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

But they've nearly doubled the length of S*P*Y*S !!!!!
Can't say that's a good thing though big grin


Yeah, that's true I suppose....

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

What year is "The Stripper?" Any nervous angular longhair content, like Goldy's TZ TV scores or "City of Fear?"

Is SPYS ponytail music?

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)

You can listen FSM samples for Stripper wink

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

You can listen FSM samples for Stripper wink

Thanks. I'll wait to hear from a Goldy fan. I know there are many of them here.

Samples take you only so far.

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 2:36 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

What year is "The Stripper?" Any nervous angular longhair content, like Goldy's TZ TV scores or "City of Fear?"

The Stripper was composed and recorded in late 1962 (the film was released in 1963). It's...alternatively jazzy and pained/moody sounding dramatic writing, with a lot of string writing and mellow brass. I think you might dig it. Some parts are not too far away from TZ's "The Four of Us Are Dying" (Jerry's first for that series) or the jazzy bits of City of Fear. Maybe also a bit similar to Studs Lonigan at times, sans harmonica though so don't worry. smile

Sound samples might actually be helpful to you in this case because FSM generously provided the first minute of *every* track (obviously the new LLL edition will sound better):
https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/79/Stripper-Nick-Quarry-The/

Is SPYS ponytail music?

Mid-70s so not near the ponytail era. And there are elements of it that sound *very* tied to the decade of the 70s. But sound-wise it could also probably accurately be called the missing link between Jerry's two kooky jazzy action Flint scores from the 60s, and his Joe Dante everything-and-the-kitchen-sink comedy style from the 80s-00s...which does take you into the ponytail era I guess. (Have you heard any of his scores for Dante like the Gremlins scores or The 'Burbs or Looney Tunes?)

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   Jurassic T. Park   (Member)

But sound-wise it could also probably accurately be called the missing link between Jerry's two kooky jazzy action Flint scores from the 60s, and his Joe Dante everything-and-the-kitchen-sink comedy style from the 80s-00s...which does take you into the ponytail era I guess. (Have you heard any of his scores for Dante like the Gremlins scores or The 'Burbs or Looney Tunes?)

Yavar


The "Main Title" to S*P*Y*S 100% reminded me of Gremlins and made me think it's almost to Goldsmith what "Heartbeeps" was to Williams.

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

There is a simple way to calculate how much is new for The Stripper; I'm not sure if people are going about it the right way. One thing to keep in mind is that the FSM edition had two versions of the End Title: a damaged stereo version and an undamaged mono version. This seems to do away with one version so I'm guessing that the damaged stereo version was repaired and the mono version no longer considered necessary to include. So let's do a little bit of math:

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/cdID/79/

Subtracting 10:27 of Nick Quarry and one of the 1:29 End Title, the old play time of the FSM for The Stripper including all source music was about 61:39.

The first disc of LLL's new Vol. 3 is 69:16, from which one must subtract the "Pacer's Farewell" finale cue from Flaming Star running 2:26, to arrive at 66:50 of music from The Stripper only.

Now it may primarily be Goldsmith-arranged source music that's new (aside from probably an undamaged stereo version of the End Title cue, premiering here as I said), but that's approximately 5:11 more music compared to the FSM edition. Plus it all probably sounds better given there's more than 20 years worth of technological advances since the FSM, and Mike Mattesino was on the job!

But I'd be lying if I said that the additional 15 minutes of music from SPYS isn't the primary draw...for ME, anyway. And having the superb Flaming Star finale cue premiered on CD here is a great bonus, and the appropriate place to put it as it was Jerry's very first work for 20th Century Fox and it's paired on disc with his first full score written under contract to the studio.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Eh... but now I see it's more complicated, with "Should I?" being included as part of one of the FSM tracks, whereas here it's provided separately from the score cue as well as a combined version included in the additional tracks. So maybe there's only around 2 minutes of new music from The Stripper then?

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

You can listen FSM samples for Stripper wink

Thanks. I'll wait to hear from a Goldy fan. I know there are many of them here.


Goldy Hawn? Papillons Are Free? Laugh-In Like Flint?

I'm the Goldsmith fan who will tell OnyaBirri what he wants to hear - The Stripper is the closest that Goldsmith got to sounding like George Duning. Need Zardoz speak more?


 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 4:43 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Goldy Hawn? Papillons Are Free? Laugh-In Like Flint?

I'm the Goldsmith fan who will tell OnyaBirri what he wants to hear - The Stripper is the closest that Goldsmith got to sounding like George Duning. Need Zardoz speak more?


When you say that Goldy sounds like Duning here, are you referring to Duning's trademark inclusion of the 13th over a minor 7th chord, creating a grind between the 7th and 13th, thus producing the poignant, bittersweet sound that Duning is known for? Does Goldy use this device?

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2021 - 5:29 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Out of curiosity is the 'Pacer’s Farewell' track mono or stereo?

 
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