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May 3, 2022 - 1:41 AM
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Many fans never purchased the original 1995 album and it's now very difficult to find, so it's actually really wonderful that those fans can enjoy both the full score and Horner's prepared highlights version. Personally, in the instance of many of such 2-CD releases from Intrada, LLL and other labels, I wind up listening more often to the original album highlights these days rather than full scores, because, I mean, who has the time? 
Yes, this is how I feel as well. I am one of those fans who doesn't own the original album, and I really like that it's included alongside the complete score presentation. It preserves the often preferred (by the composer) album presentation, which I also end up listening to quite a lot. Presenting them together makes this the definitive release for this score.
And that's ignoring any legal requirements and associated costs. I don't know how these things work, but maybe including the album doesn't even increase cost that much as compared to only releasing the film presentation. And if it does, I appreciate the labels going through the extra effort and upfront payments to provide us with the most complete presentation possible.
For me the problem is the embarressment of riches created by all these wonderful James Horner releases lately. I have some catching up to do, and make priorities. Last year was the year of Goldsmith releases, this year looks like it will be the year of James Horner releases.
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Here's Roger's write-up:
INTRADA Announces:
JUMANJI
Composed and Conducted by JAMES HORNER
INTRADA ISC 473
Intrada's latest release from composer James Horner is a 2-CD set of his wild 1995 score for Tri-Star's Jumanji. 1995 was a busy year for Horner, having composed Braveheart, Casper, Apollo 13, Jade and Balto in addition to Jumanji. Directed by Joe Johnston, the film continued the collaboration with Horner, who also scored his films Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, The Rocketeer and The Pagemaster. Horner marshals large orchestral forces for Jumanji for his leitmotif-driven score, augmented by synthesizers and a selection of ethnic instruments, chief among these are two flutes, shakuhachi and quena, used to very different effects. The former is a traditional Japanese bamboo flute that Horner deployed in many of his scores—though rarely as aptly as in Jumanji, where its breathy, guttural tones transform the instrument into a veritable jungle beast. On the other end of the emotional spectrum, the quena (or kena) is a South American wood flute from the Andes region, usually performed with florid vibrato. Its timbre has an idyllic quality and creates islands of tranquility within the score.
Sony Pictures vaulted the complete 6-channel scoring session masters for Jumanji, with three channels devoted to the orchestra mixes and three channels assigned to the sweeteners and electronics. Although their textures and effects are important in select sequences of the score, Horner kept them to a minimum, preferring to emphasize the colors of his large orchestra. The master elements were transferred at 24bit 96kHz with the six channels of audio combined into the vivid final composite two-channel stereo mix made by Shawn Murphy at the Todd-AO Scoring Stage. The complete score appears on disc 1, with disc 2 featuring a remastered original 1995 soundtrack album, produced by the composer with some exclusive takes and edits.
The film opens with a nineteenth-century prologue as the game is sealed underground. The narrative jumps to 1969, when young Alan Parrish discovers the game on the outskirts of a shoe factory and a roll of the dice leaves Alan trapped in the game. The story moves to “present day” 1995, when the game is rediscovered by orphans Judy (Kirsten Dunst) and Peter (Bradley Pierce) Shepherd, after they move into the old Parrish house. Taking up the game where Alan and Sarah left off, the children unleash a plague of jungle beasts on their small town—and in the process release the adult Alan, now portrayed by Robin Williams, who must help them finish the game and thereby undo its pernicious effects.
INTRADA ISC 473
Retail Price: $30.99
Barcode: 7 20258 54730 9
Starts Shipping 5/03
For track listing and sound samples, please visit https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.12529/.f
http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8903
Here's Dough's write-up:
James Horner
Label: Intrada Special Collection Volume ISC 473
Film Date: 1995
Album Date: 2022
Time: 130:30
Tracks: 41
Price: $30.99
Colorful expanded action score from James Horner! Wildly successful fantasy adventure franchise from the mind of author-illustrator Chris Van Allsburg has its beginnings with this 1995 hit! Robin Williams headlines the cast, Kirsten Dunst, Bonnie Hunt, Jonathan Hyde, Bebe Neuwirth also feature. Joe Johnston directs, Tristar Pictures presents, James Horner scores. It begins with a game, players make their moves, the pieces snap into place… and incredible adventures result. Giant mosquitos, wild monkeys, animals on the rampage, man-eating plants all become real! Buried within is moving tale of boy lost inside from years past, now freed in the present. Home, father and son relationships, love all play emotional roles amidst wild excitement.
Matching note for note is florid, exciting symphonic score from James Horner. Mysterious ideas suddenly become frantic, action-filled romps, gentle moments become thundering musical outbursts. Highlights are abundant: “Monkey Mayhem” brings wild orchestral frenzy to the fore while “Mosquito In Car” brings in giant insect on the musical attack. Amidst all the dangers is warm, moving theme for boyhood and home, given heart courtesy woodwinds and strings. When fantastic story reaches climax, Horner unleashes epic-length 11-minute “Jumanji” to do orchestral battle with the elements of nature-gone-wild. Horner’s masterful blend of emotional warmth with rousing excitement is memorable!
Generous 51-minute 1995 album of highlights is now expanded from original digital scoring session masters, includes previously unreleased gems such as “Store Mayhem”, the aforementioned “Mosquito In Car”, Plant Almost Eats Peter”, several other cues. Horner’s original album which features exclusive edits and takes also features on CD 2 of this two-disc set.
Informative liner notes by John Takis, graphic package design by Kay Marshall. Steve Bramson orchestrates, James Horner composes, conducts the Hollywood Studio Orchestra. Intrada Special Collection 2-CD release available while quantities and interest remain!
https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.12529/.f
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May 3, 2022 - 8:30 AM
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Juanki
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In my own, I was just giving my opinion, no need to undermine it. I was expecting to open a debate not entering the personal issue.
I can't stand that the only reply is "if you don't like this, don't buy it and let the rest enjoy". That spoils any criticism. I want to
enjoy too, of course but not at any price.
This issue does not require either debate or criticism. You have to remember we are part of a small, niche market, so small that I am amazed that titles such as the one under discussion get released at all. To carp on about content and price is ludicrous.
The labels are doing their best to satisfy our need for more of what we love; namely, as much of a particular score as they can find and make available, and with the best possible production values. We should be thankful that we continue to be the beneficiaries of their diligent work.
I said I didn't wanted to undermine Intrada. As a costumer of his products, I expect better, that's all.
I find funny the fact that you choose what can be debate or criticism.
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Let me tell you something: I am pretty sure that almost everyone who buys this new release, already owns the original. This is a release made for fans of the composer and film music, not a "souvenir" of the movie.
I've been tired of the 2cds presentation for ages and may I say, I feel it's about time people complain about this issue. I get the point if the composer made an album suite release, because that's absolutely worth preserving ('Jaws', any Mancini score, those 70's soundtrack releases) but if not, what's the point?
It's absolutely unworthy to pay again for something that everyone has. This is business as its worst, to make the customer pay again for something that almost sure had and if that's not the case, it's worthless as it is already included in the complete presentation. If you check out almost any expanded release, it is just enough with the new complete one as the previous release is within this presentation, what makes the whole thing redundant.
In my personal experience, this situation is making even more difficult to buy cds, because if you live overseas, prepare your wallet. And remember a 2-cd has an extra charge too!
I don't want to undermine Intrada people effort on getting this score in an expanded presentation, that's great move. But, I think it would be easier and more affordable to the costumer to get the chance to get that just: the real expanded presentation. I would buy just that and it looks like I am not the only one thinking the same, which makes me ask why does this soundtrack business keeps customer paying again and again for the same material?
You nailed it a lot nicer than I could have put it. All of this time I thought there were legal reasons for including the original album, but I’m questioning that. Most, and I emphasize most, of these albums can be gotten at a very reduced price if someone wants them. I will not be buying this for $31. I might have for $22 or $23 or whatever Intrada’s single disc price is now and I definitely would have bought a single disc of the complete score for $20. I’m one person, I get it, but as is typical of the label responses around here, they don’t really care. Roger referenced his BMW so life must be good…
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Oh, to be so entitled.
Access is priceless.
Stay frosty.
Graham
Entitled is expecting $10 additional dollars for a disc that is worthless.
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I can't believe I'm reading all this negative crap! It wasn't that long ago that collectors were crying out for remastered expansions of their favourite scores, but they were not available for many many years. Now our beloved bespoke labels are giving us exactly what we've craved for. AND YOU'RE GRIPING ABOUT THE BLOODY PRICE!
I have a suggestion for you: if it bothers you that much, don't buy it. Personally, I wouldn't care if it were 50 dollars, if that was what it cost to produce and release it. I would still buy it. Why? Because I want complete scores in better sound quality; that's why. And mentioning sound quality brings me to another point. Almost inevitably, the original album will also have been remastered. So if you enjoyed the album, you will now have it in superior sound. Win, win all round.
I just hope the labels realise that there are those of us who really appreciate these incredible releases; long may they continue.
The detractors are in the minority, thank goodness.
Oh excuse me— the album is remastered soooo worth the extra money. Was Disc 1 not remastered?
Keep shelling out the money buddy.
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In my own, I was just giving my opinion, no need to undermine it. I was expecting to open a debate not entering the personal issue.
I can't stand that the only reply is "if you don't like this, don't buy it and let the rest enjoy". That spoils any criticism. I want to
enjoy too, of course but not at any price.
This issue does not require either debate or criticism. You have to remember we are part of a small, niche market, so small that I am amazed that titles such as the one under discussion get released at all. To carp on about content and price is ludicrous.
The labels are doing their best to satisfy our need for more of what we love; namely, as much of a particular score as they can find and make available, and with the best possible production values. We should be thankful that we continue to be the beneficiaries of their diligent work.
Yes, let us all continue to bow at the altar. You know where were you when everyone was crapping on The Phantom of the Opera release? Can you please buy a copy so Intrada continues to release Safan work? You have so much money to spread around. Happy for you that money is no object.
You’re pathetic.
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May 3, 2022 - 9:11 AM
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Thgil
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Imagine buying a 2-CD set for an album of pop, rock or country music, and the second CD had most of the same songs on it. Film scores have to be the ONLY genre of music that does this a lot of the time. These "original album presentations" (unless they feature a unique recording of the score) are like those cups of slimy coleslaw you get with a meal that sit there uneaten and eventually thrown away. And those cups of coleslaw are at least free! If we want those albums, we can just hang onto our old copies, or buy one dirt-cheap off of eBay.
I'm sick of this shit. I buy two of these expanded 2-CD reissues, yet I'm paying twenty dollars extra for NOTHING.
Many fans never purchased the original 1995 album and it's now very difficult to find, so it's actually really wonderful that those fans can enjoy both the full score and Horner's prepared highlights version. Personally, in the instance of many of such 2-CD releases from Intrada, LLL and other labels, I wind up listening more often to the original album highlights these days rather than full scores, because, I mean, who has the time?
Exactly this. I enjoy having everything, but I also enjoy having the original album. I never had it. When I watched the movie a few years back I found out that the '95 album was way too expensive for my taste. The original album has unique edits anyway, so this is the best of both worlds.
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Hey guys, remember how back in the late 90s all limited edition specialty label *single-disc* releases were $19.99?
https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/2022?endYear=1999&amount=30.99
You know that label expenses have continued to go up over the past quarter century, right?
I'd love to see some of you people start your own label and try to make ends meet. You act like Intrada is ripping you off, when if their prices had raised simply with the inflation index since 1999, you'd be paying $35 for SINGLE disc releases (BEFORE tax and shipping), and $43-52 for double disc releases (again, before tax and shipping).
I'm broke and can't even afford a $20 release right now. The degree of entitlement here never fails to astonish me.
Yavar
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