The COMPLETE edition of "Freud" (including the version of "Desperate Case" that was heard in the film {the same one also heard in "Alien"] and NOT the alternate take that's on Varese's Deluxe Edition)
Just like too know how much was Jerry Goldsmith involved with the 1987 movie Wall Street, & what amount of his rejected music provided for this project exists somewhere!
I think I said something similar in another thread. I'd buy BLACK PATCH & THE MAN if/when they are released and then that's it. There's nothing else I really desire from JG after those. And if I'm honest,, there's A LOT more titles by other composers I'd place above those two, given the choice.
1 Pursuit 2 The Man 3 Crawlspace 4 The Salamander (Original Soundtrack) 5 Black Patch 6 The Waltons 7 Gunsmoke 8 Indict and Convict
Old vote: 1 The Public Eye (Unused) 2 Shamus 3 Face of a Fugitive 4 Pursuit 5 The Man 6 Crawlspace 7 The Salamander 8 Black Patch 9 The Waltons 10 The Last Run
And similarly filmmusicnow, I join you in wishing for more In Harm’s Way and Freud (either because complete tapes are discovered or a rerecording is produced), but neither of those would be premieres.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but with THE PUBLIC EYE now on its way, does this mean that BLACK PATCH is now the ONLY Goldsmith feature score - rejected or otherwise - that hasn't had a release? If so, that's pretty amazing!
But how about THE MAN - was that a feature or a TV movie? I always thought it was a TV movie, but IMDb doesn't list it as such, as they do with CRAWLSPACE and PURSUIT, for instance.
EDIT: Apparently it was both! Wikipedia says "The Man was released in theatres on July 19, 1972", and there's this quote from star James Earl Jones: "I have misgivings about that one. It was done as a TV special. Had we known it was to be released as a motion picture, we would have asked for more time and more production money. I regret that."
Yes, The Man seems to be a situation like the Jane Eyre scored by John Williams: on TV in the States, but released theatrically outside of the States. (Heck, Lionheart was released theatrically outside of the States, but I don't think it was even released on TV in the States... and everybody considers that a feature film.)
So as to your initial question, the answer is YES that Black Patch and The Man are the only remaining theatrically-released features released with a Goldsmith score which have yet to make it to album in some form or another (including re-recordings). It's worth celebrating for sure, though that's a lot of caveats. It excludes TV movies (which I'd still consider features despite not being theatrically released) like Pursuit, Indict and Convict, Lights Out, The People Next Door (genesis of the Chinatown theme!), Crawlspace (my favorite unreleased Goldsmith TV movie score), and Do Not Fold, Spindle, or Mutilate (my least favorite unreleased Goldsmith TV movie score). A lot of these can be found on YouTube or DailyMotion or Vimeo if you're curious to check them out -- they are all full length features, only they weren't released theatrically. While it's my least favorite of the bunch, Do Not Fold was recently put up on YouTube in great-looking (and sounding) remastered form, so I'll embed it here as an example:
Alas, Crawlspace, my favorite, does not look nearly as nice...but the music is incredible so check it out anyway:
Sadly that version abruptly cuts off the gorgeous end credits cue.
There are also *at least* two rejected Goldsmith theatrical feature film scores which were substantially written but never recorded: Babe, the Gallant Pig and Disney's The Kid. Premiere recordings could be produced of these two at some point, but nothing exists on tape in the vaults to be released, so it's more a matter for this other thread of mine: https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=93066&forumID=1&archive=0
Except for THE MAN and BLACK PATCH.. I call my Goldsmiths voyage and search accomplished. Amazing.
How come, moolik? It's not as if a feature being released on TV (as The Man was in the States, after all) meant that Goldsmith provided music of any less quality than he would have for a theatrically released feature. Check out Crawlspace, above -- it's a superb feature score of approximately 22 minutes (so more substantial than The Man's 13.5!) Pursuit is also pretty awesome...it should especially appeal to you since you love Shamus so much and it's got a similar 70s feel: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3as9mq
Besides The Man Black patch Crawlspace And Pursuit There are none...right? Pretty amazing.
See, you even know about Crawlspace and Pursuit, silly! There are a few more TV movies besides these which I listed above, like Indict and Convict, which has been on YouTube sometimes but keeps getting taken down. FSM user zooba preserved a bit of it for us to hear:
I saved the whole film when it was on YouTube and can confirm the entire score is good stuff!
I want everything that hasn't been previously released, Radio, TV, Film!
Now you're a man after my own heart, Niall! I'm right there with you.
Yes...you are right...I should have added Pursuit and Crawlspace and Indict and Convict to my list.I guess I was just too lazy. Hearing the Do not fold..spindle etc.cue..man this is some wacky stuff...too wacky for me. The rest sound awesome
Yes...you are right...I should have added Pursuit and Crawlspace and Indict and Convict to my list.I guess I was just too lazy. Hearing the Do not fold..spindle etc.cue..man this is some wacky stuff...too wacky for me. The rest sound awesome
Hehe...yeah, I actually like the theme itself (on trumpet) just fine in Do Not Fold, Spindle, or Mutilate. Nothing wrong with the melody! But Goldsmith loses me with the weird siren noise that mars the whole thing, even if I understand his intellectual approach. The jazz music for the murderer is also pretty hard on my ears, in this one. I know Jeff Bond likes the score but I fear I never will. That said, for many years I pooh-poohed Take Her, She's Mine until I got the lovely Intrada album and after that it rose in my estimation quite a bit.
I had never seen CRAWLSPACE until today. Thanks very much. It certainly was an excellent TV movie production and a Goldsmith score definitely worth having on CD someday.
I brought this up in another thread. Sometime in the 80's Goldsmith supposedly was working on an animated musical film of The Phantom Tollbooth. It would have had numerous songs that needed to be written and recorded before the animation could be started, and the project was aborted during production. I was hearing about this at the time, I think Goldsmith spoke of it in an interview, but have never came across any mention of it since. Do you know anything about it, Yavar?
