Friend... "Medicine Man" takes place in... Brasil... which was invaded and colonized by... Portugal... where they speak portuguese...
A good point indeed! So I called the new thread on the subject "Playlist: Jerry Goldsmith in Latin/Hispanic Mode" -- will that suffice, for Medicine Man to be included?
Not sure how I feel about this score - never heard it before and I haven't seen the movie, but from what I'm hearing in this suite from youtube it sounds a bit aimless - cheesy romance and rather dodgy take on a pseudo-mariachi-meets-flamenco sound:
"Mask of Zorro" seems like a more coherent take on this musical subject matter/setting?
Between this and Shamus, because I haven't seen them, I'm really having a hard time getting past their mustachioed B-grade actors (I know they've both put in really great roles before...) - but I don't know? Maybe this is one where we need the heavy convincing from Yavar...
There wasn't any real doubt in my mind that I would purchase CaboBlanco, but this suite has tipped the scale even more lopsidedly in favor of buying.
Friend... "Medicine Man" takes place in... Brasil... which was invaded and colonized by... Portugal... where they speak portuguese...
A good point indeed! So I called the new thread on the subject "Playlist: Jerry Goldsmith in Latin/Hispanic Mode" -- will that suffice, for Medicine Man to be included?
Yavar
Try to create a thread with the title "Playlist: Jerry Goldsmith in USA Mode" and maybe you will understand how nonsensical this is...
Try to create a thread with the title "Playlist: Jerry Goldsmith in USA Mode" and maybe you will understand how nonsensical this is...
I mean, I would call it "Americana mode" (which similarly reduces the variety of music made in the melting pot of the United States down to music that sounds like Aaron Copland and Virgil Thomson), and I'd be happy to create a thread with that title as Goldsmith wrote a lot in that style too.
Probably. It's funny because for a lot of people that Main Title (the first 2.5 minutes you hate) is the highlight of the score and they aren't wild about the rest (I'm pretty sure that material is only reprised once in the score). But it sounds like you may be drawn to everything but! I for one love it all -- I really dig the suspense and action music in this score.
I watched this crap movie on YouTube recently. One of the main things that let it down was the leaden performance by tombstone faced French actress Dominique Sanda. She was in Damnation Alley another stinker scored by Goldsmith. Couldn't act to save her life yet she had a 35 year career in movies.
I watched this crap movie on YouTube recently. One of the main things that let it down was the leaden performance by tombstone faced French actress Dominique Sanda. She was in Damnation Alley another stinker scored by Goldsmith. Couldn't act to save her life yet she had a 35 year career in movies.
I watched this crap movie on YouTube recently. One of the main things that let it down was the leaden performance by tombstone faced French actress Dominique Sanda. She was in Damnation Alley another stinker scored by Goldsmith. Couldn't act to save her life yet she had a 35 year career in movies.
Her face movements never alter and remain static and what you see is what you get and nothing more . If the world was coming to an end or she had won the lottery her face would remain the same. A very weird actress indeed with little or no talent.
Which places (cues)? Eventually we'll whittle this down to a playlist, as No Respectable Gentlemen suggested further up this thread. However, I feel like I've hijacked this thread long enough (though I'm sure LLL doesn't mind it being repeatedly bumped to the top of the page!) Let's move this Latin/Hispanic Jerry discussion over to a new thread, and we'll hash out a definitive playlist:
You see, America is the name of a huge continent - divided in South America and North America. Trying to sell that USA is "America" is just another example of what i was pointing out.
Okay, Totoro, of course I know all of that -- but the term "Americana" is long established and means a very specific thing, musically. What term do you prefer to use to refer to the type of music written by Aaron Copland and Virgil Thomson (among others), and taken up later by the likes of Elmer Bernstein in film music such as The Magnificent Seven? When people talk about that sound, how do you want us to refer to it? "USA music" is also reductive you know, as there are so many cultures present in the US. I think "Americana" is convenient shorthand, whatever quibbles you might have about accuracy. I doubt you have an alternative (one or two word term) suggestion that's going to take over the zeitgeist.
Probably. It's funny because for a lot of people that Main Title (the first 2.5 minutes you hate) is the highlight of the score and they aren't wild about the rest (I'm pretty sure that material is only reprised once in the score). But it sounds like you may be drawn to everything but! I for one love it all -- I really dig the suspense and action music in this score.
Yavar
Yeah, I'm kind of shocked that anyone who loves colorful, vivacious orchestral music could not enjoy that main title, the first 2.5 minutes of that suite. I mean, it's a ready-made concert piece.
You see, America is the name of a huge continent - divided in South America and North America. Trying to sell that USA is "America" is just another example of what i was pointing out.
Okay, Totoro, of course I know all of that -- but the term "Americana" is long established and means a very specific thing, musically. What term do you prefer to use to refer to the type of music written by Aaron Copland and Virgil Thomson (among others), and taken up later by the likes of Elmer Bernstein in film music such as The Magnificent Seven? When people talk about that sound, how do you want us to refer to it? "USA music" is also reductive you know, as there are so many cultures present in the US. I think "Americana" is convenient shorthand, whatever quibbles you might have about accuracy. I doubt you have an alternative (one or two word term) suggestion that's going to take over the zeitgeist.
Yavar
You know, friend, I do not think this debate is productive.
We are talking about lables here. And I do not like labels, specially when it try to categorize ethnic ou cultural references, since it reduce things a lot.
I am sure it is not fare to call Copland's music "americana" since I believe he did not just composed that kind of music.
But I understand our society likes to put labels on everything since this helps the sales.
This reminds when Heitor Villa-Lobos was envited to do concerts in the USA and the marketing people was going to sell him as "Brazilian Composer" for what he replied: "I am not a brazilian composer. I am a composer".
Speaking of labels, did you see that the label La-La Land Records is putting out "Cabo Blanco" next week? That seems to have gotten lost in this discussion.
Speaking of labels, did you see that the label La-La Land Records is putting out "Cabo Blanco" next week? That seems to have gotten lost in this discussion.
Now that's an example when the term "label" is used properly!
Speaking of labels, did you see that the label La-La Land Records is putting out "Cabo Blanco" next week? That seems to have gotten lost in this discussion.
Very exciting! (I did try to move the tangential conversation to a new thread.)
