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 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 3:22 PM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

Wow, this is lovely LLL well-done. Goldsmith scored fab materials that opener alone lets you know that your in store for the added treatment. The movie is good but without that music it would be a cold-case-canary, I've been mused with this score before being slightly different on Jerry's palette that's a good-thing he was a genius.

I got the original but I will sure upgrade this wonderful release, thanks again LLL, on the money again guys, bravo!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   Leo Nicols   (Member)

I'm unfamiliar with this score, but after listening to a couple of youtube clips I absolutely love it !
Quite magnificent...an essential purchase.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 4:00 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

Yavar, you forgot about Medicine Man.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 4:01 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

D’oh! Thanks, added. In my mind I think of the sweeping Barry stuff in that the most, and the synthy stuff second, but there’s definitely also some Hispanic flavor!

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 4:53 PM   
 By:   Steven Lloyd   (Member)

If you haven't listened to them in a while, I would also recommend a revisit to High Velocity and Breakout, which I regard as even better "sister scores" to this one.

Yavar


I'll give BREAKOUT another try on the heels of my CABOBLANCO re-evaluation, though it's also been lower-tier JG for me. However, I rank HIGH VELOCITY is suitably quite high among the Latin Goldsmiths, along with MEDICINE MAN (with UNDER FIRE being my favorite album of all).

From that earlier playlist in progress, though, RIO CONCHOS contains the tense "Bandits Ho," while RIO LOBO opens with its beautiful Mexican-flavored acoustic guitar for a main title. Then of course, there's also EXTREME PREJUDICE.

Others might think of still more before I get back here.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 4:55 PM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

Raggedy Man, too.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 4:57 PM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

D’oh! Thanks, added. In my mind I think of the sweeping Barry stuff in that the most, and the synthy stuff second, but there’s definitely also some Hispanic flavor!

Yavar


No hispanic flavor on Medicine Man. It's Latin American flavor all the way, plus some native jungle flavor.
The same with Under Fire.

Hispanic is a sound that derives from Spain.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 4:58 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Raggedy Man, too.

Well...that’s only a single track, correct? And didn’t we find out that it wasn’t even composed by him? (It may have been his arrangement.)

Surely Latin America (including Mexico, Central and South America) counts as Hispanic because of Spain’s influence culturally?

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 5:02 PM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

Surely Latin America (including Mexico, Central and South America) counts as Hispanic because of Spain’s influence culturally?

Yavar


No, they do not.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

No Cabo = No Blanco

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

No, they do not.

Hmmm...”Hispanic” according to the Oxford English Dictionary is defined as, “relating to Spain or to Spanish-speaking countries, especially those of Latin America.”

But I’m also happy to call them Jerry’s Latin-flavored scores...

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 5:13 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

Spain>>>Latin America>>>Taco Bell

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

Raggedy Man, too.

Well...that’s only a single track, correct?


Two, Henry & Harry and Mexican Tune.

And didn’t we find out that it wasn’t even composed by him? (It may have been his arrangement.)


Could be, but that would be news to me.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 5:32 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)


How would I possibly know? I don't have any Goldsmith after Coma or Capricorn One.


His "Giallo" period! big grin

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 5:35 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I guess the former would count for the first minute and 20 seconds or so, assuming it's a Goldsmith composition. "Mexican Tune" is a traditional song called "La Llorona"... I think I learned that on this board but I'm not sure.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 5:53 PM   
 By:   scottthompson   (Member)

Oh, totally -- I've often thought about making that playlist. Let's see...the specific scores those could be pulled from:

Hallmark Hall of Fame (radio show) "Simon Bolivar" (1954)
CBS Romance (radio show) "Cordova" / "Cordoba" (1954)
CBS Romance (radio show) "The Guitar" (1956 -- we think this was Jerry's first collaboration with the great Laurindo Almeida)

Hour of the Gun
Bandolero!
100 Rifles

Breakout
High Velocity
Caboblanco
Under Fire
Medicine Man

Soarin' Over California (just for a moment, really)


Those are off the top of my head...trying to remember if there are really Hispanic sounding cues in Rio Conchos or any other westerns... does Bad Girls maybe have a bit?

Yavar



I'd add RIO LOBO to this very nice list. Seems Spanish sounding in places...

SCOTT

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 6:06 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Which places (cues)? Eventually we'll whittle this down to a playlist, as No Respectable Gentlemen suggested further up this thread. However, I feel like I've hijacked this thread long enough (though I'm sure LLL doesn't mind it being repeatedly bumped to the top of the page!) Let's move this Latin/Hispanic Jerry discussion over to a new thread, and we'll hash out a definitive playlist:

https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=144170&forumID=1&archive=0

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 6:26 PM   
 By:   Jurassic T. Park   (Member)

Not sure how I feel about this score - never heard it before and I haven't seen the movie, but from what I'm hearing in this suite from youtube it sounds a bit aimless - cheesy romance and rather dodgy take on a pseudo-mariachi-meets-flamenco sound:



"Mask of Zorro" seems like a more coherent take on this musical subject matter/setting?

Between this and Shamus, because I haven't seen them, I'm really having a hard time getting past their mustachioed B-grade actors (I know they've both put in really great roles before...) - but I don't know? Maybe this is one where we need the heavy convincing from Yavar...

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 6:27 PM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

No, they do not.

Hmmm...”Hispanic” according to the Oxford English Dictionary is defined as, “relating to Spain or to Spanish-speaking countries, especially those of Latin America.”

But I’m also happy to call them Jerry’s Latin-flavored scores...

Yavar


Friend... "Medicine Man" takes place in... Brasil... which was invaded and colonized by... Portugal... where they speak portuguese...

Yes, Jerry's score has no brasilian flavor, but he was smart enough not to use any hispanic flavor as well.

But maybe I am wrong, because you people live in USA and are always listening to The British Grenadiers, since USA was invadaded and colonized by the british, right? I am sure the Oxford English Dictionary will back me up.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 6:32 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

The CD is 76 minutes but yes there is a lot of source music some which hasn't been released before.

Sound is great.

James

 
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