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 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 3:34 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Sad that this didn't happen...or maybe Varese did it secretly ( gnnaaaaaa....just kidding´) just like Quartet did a rerecording of THE BRIDE WORE BLACK, which (at least for me) came out of nowhere...

Wikipedia:
VSDC-2000 Highlander - Michael Kamen, the Royal Scottish National Orchestra (Planned re-recording of popular in-demand score under the baton of Kamen, was in the planning stages until it was put on hold due to the composer's failing health and never materialized)


 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 5:49 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Either 'The Ballad of Cable Hogue' (Goldsmith) or 'The Right Stuff' (Conti) would be nice.
I missed them the first time around.


Sorry you missed them. Two very good scores. THE RIGHT STUFF actually is my favorite Bill Conti score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 6:37 AM   
 By:   Graham   (Member)

C0DY is worth TEN OF YOU you miserable pile of tripe. How dare you address one of our most respected members in such a way?? You wretched, worthless trash-talker. GET OUT OF HERE!

Did not receive this memo.

Graham

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 6:58 AM   
 By:   jwb1   (Member)

Well, I'm happy the release production team at Varese is working, but their customer support isn't. Haven't received my order from May 16 and they don't answer emails.

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   King Solium   (Member)

Cody... a stalwart of Golden Age advocacy... insulted by a wretched, preposterous loudmouth who purports to be the mouthpiece of all things meaningful in film music???? We laugh!

Get with the times, Grandpa! Nobody cares about Golden Age scores anymore. Cody is nothing more than an old man yelling at clouds.



C0DY is worth TEN OF YOU you miserable pile of tripe. How dare you address one of our most respected members in such a way?? You wretched, worthless trash-talker. GET OUT OF HERE!

Cody... a stalwart of Golden Age advocacy... insulted by a wretched, preposterous loudmouth who purports to be the mouthpiece of all things meaningful in film music???? We laugh!

You miserable, wretched good-for-nothing... I gurgle with glee at your presposterous FAILURE!!!


Just a reminder, personal attacks are against board rules you stuck-up, half-witted, scruffy-looking nerf herder. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 7:37 AM   
 By:   Damian   (Member)

I always say any one of limited intelligence can slag someone off easily. Why not keep it to yourself. Thus feeling totally superior in your own mind.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 7:43 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

Great stuff!

This is just like the old days at FSM. Huge rows & threats over...soundtracks. It's just been too darned nice here in the last few years smile

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 7:55 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Insults because a specialty label announces things fans could love to buy and discuss on a message board.

What is wrong with this world?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Has it?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   Damian   (Member)



What is wrong with this world?


Everything. Each one more important than soundtracks!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   AJL   (Member)

Has it?

Well, it has done so far this year. Let's hope it does so again on Friday.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

What causes pip in poultry?

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Nobody cares about Golden Age scores anymore. Cody is nothing more than an old man yelling at clouds.

I care about Golden Age scores very much. Though I'm only in my mid 30s I grew up with old films and their music thanks to my father recording them off TV. I saw Captain from Castile and The Adventures of Robin Hood and The Sea Hawk and The Flame and the Arrow and The Fastest Gun Alive (and a ton of other old westerns) long before I ever saw Star Wars!

What's so sad is that Cody is such a prominent "advocate" for the Golden Age here, since all he does is make album producers (like Bruce Kimmel) regret putting them out because of his constant nagging, while simultaneously offending younger posters by repeatedly slagging off (perfectly fine) music that they like, instead of performing any sort of actual outreach or advocacy on behalf of Golden Age music. If you attack other people's taste endlessly and rant about them liking "bloodletting scores" (is this some way to lump action/horror into one weird genre, or something?) at BEST you're just going to make them think, "Oh, I guess this guy and I have very different taste, since he's always saying what I listen to is trash. I may as well stay far away from Alfred Newman and Miklos Rozsa... they're probably boring!"

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I'll put "The Sea Hawk" against Junkie XL's entire body of work … combined with Tyler Bates' entire body of work. And they'll deservedly lose.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)


Artist's rendition of this thread...

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 9:16 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

C0DY is worth TEN OF YOU you miserable pile of tripe. How dare you address one of our most respected members in such a way?? You wretched, worthless trash-talker. GET OUT OF HERE!

Apparently the irony of acting offended at someone else's trash-talking (the term "Grandpa"?) while simultaneously calling them "wretched, worthless" and a "miserable pile of tripe" is completely lost on you, Basil.

Cody... a stalwart of Golden Age advocacy... insulted by a wretched, preposterous loudmouth who purports to be the mouthpiece of all things meaningful in film music???? We laugh!

I'm guessing you're referring to me since this was a separate post from your attack on someone else. I may be a loudmouth (my wife would certainly agree), but I'm not wretched ("in a very unhappy or unfortunate state"?) nor am I preposterous ("completely contrary to nature, reason, or common sense; utterly foolish; absurd; senseless") -- in fact in responding to Cody in this thread I was trying to inject some reason and common sense into his preposterous expectations that Varese continue to lose money by putting out releases that cater specifically to his taste. In fact, it is clearly CODY (and maybe you too; I definitely sense some projection here) who acts like he's "the mouthpiece of all things meaningful in film music"! He's the one who rants about other people liking "bloodletting scores" and "SCHLOCK", whenever there's a new release he's not interested in! I have NEVER said to Cody that the Golden Age is unimportant, but he constantly tells other people that the music they like is worthless. I have never said I'm the arbiter of what's meaningful in film music -- but that's precisely what Cody does all the time (and he seems pretty wretched about it, come to think of it).

The problem with Cody from the standpoint of this Golden Age fan is that he alienates with constant negativity, rather than advocating with a more positive approach.

Lukas Kendall was a stalwart of Golden Age advocacy. Bruce Kimmel was a stalwart of Golden Age advocacy. Cody hasn't done bupkis for Golden Age advocacy. Constantly insulting others and their tastes in different music is not the same as advocating for things YOU like.

So I again I'll suggest: if you don't have the money or inclination to start a label and actually release the kind of scores you want to see released, why not at least start a podcast? Maybe you and Cody together, since you're apparently such buddies. You can use Skype or Zoom (surely you became familiar with the latter at least during the pandemic), and if you don't want to buy even a $60 external mic you can just make do with your computer's internal mic. Pick a Golden Age score you love, and record a conversation about it, extolling its virtues, and put it out there. Maybe you'll get some listeners and actually convert some people. One of the most fulfilling things about producing The Goldsmith Odyssey is that I've received numerous emails and comments from listeners about them having ignored or written off his 50s and 60s output, until they listened to our podcast and realized how great his work was from the very beginning. We could have skipped his early output, or at least skipped all the TV stuff. We would've been hitting his popular 70s scores by now. But I cared about the 50s and 60s stuff and I've made a lot of converts. You and Cody could do the same, or you can trade insults on this message board. You decide what you think is going to best serve as advocacy for Golden Age film music.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Token prediction: they said they were going to release an(other) expanded The Matrix around Record Store Day which is this coming Saturday. A CD release along the vinyl makes sense.

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I'll put "The Sea Hawk" against Junkie XL's entire body of work … combined with Tyler Bates' entire body of work. And they'll deservedly lose.

Well, yeah, I agree. But by phrasing it THAT way (and it's needless, really), you immediately lose any newbies who are into those two composers.

My approach with a modern score listener into those composers would be to start with Zimmer and Co.'s Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (the one with woodwinds, haha), if they don't know it. And then introduce them to Debney's Cutthroat Island (with a possible pit stop at Muppet Treasure Island). And THEN say, "You know, John Debney dedicated his awesome score to Franz Waxman, Alfred Newman, Miklos Rozsa, and Erich Wolfgang Korngold...want to hear what inspired him?" And then play them Korngold's The Sea Hawk, Newman's The Black Swan, Waxman's Anne of the Indies, and Rozsa's Plymouth Adventure.

I'm not saying I have all the answers, but that's how you advocate for music you like, to people who aren't there already. Not by preaching to the choir of people who already agree with you and share your taste.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 9:27 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Nobody cares about Golden Age scores anymore.

Wait, wait. I don't want to get into this battle, but I do think there are members (like me) who do care about Golden Age music. I like Golden, Silver and some of the current Age music. Some of the youngers on this board have also mentioned that they like older as well as newer scores. I don't think we can stereotype various members.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2021 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   Damian   (Member)

Token prediction. They said they were going to release ann(other) expanded The Matrix around Record Store Day which is this coming Saturday. A CD release along the vinyl makes sense.

Sense! Haha, that's a good onesmile

 
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