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I'd love them to release the long overdue expanded version of UNDER FIRE
1. Last we heard, tapes are lost (FSM searched for them before putting out their reissue; more recently Twilight Time searched for them again but could only find a noisy music & effects track for their iso on the Blu-ray).
2. Varese has never released, and does not control, that title.
Yavar
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Raggedy Man.
Another vote on that, Niall.
Yep, I like it a lot, and it's the only Goldsmith release that I don't have. Fingers crossed that it might come out again.
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Thought I'd bump this poll, seeing as how Robert Townson's final Varese batch is coming this Friday. I'll plan to tally up the votes on Thursday! So last chance to chime in before then, if you haven't yet!
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Mar 12, 2019 - 3:38 PM
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I rewatched The 'Burbs yesterday and I've found out the following:
Goldsmith has apparently? composed and recorded the score as it's presented on the expanded Varese Sarabande release. After that Joe Dante wanted him to revise a few things, which means that Goldsmith had to write a few alternate inserts for already existing cues.
1. In the film, the beginning of "The Note #2" sounds sweeter and has a glockenspiel in the foreground instead of a violin. After just a few seconds, the original cue sets in.
2. "This Is Walter" has a short section replaced. The comedic orchestral outburst, when Ray and Art freak out and the camera zooms in and out, is now faster and the hits by the orchestra are softer.
3.This is the only non-insert out of these five and technically no revision. During the visit at the Klopek house, Mark stamps heavily on the floorboards and a cavernous sounds leads him to suspect the Klopeks of hiding something. At this spot a rendition of the second motif of the Klopeks starts. This time the main voice is doubled by a violin. Let's call this cue "The Cavity".
4. The beginning of "The Trunk" got a revision and is now much more upsetting and less ironic. After the trunk scene, the original cue can be heard for a few seconds, but most of the rest is dropped from the film.
5. The cue "Pack Your Bags" is also unused until the western theme sets in which happens to be revised. The rhythm is changed noticably and doesn't appear in that form in any other cue.
These are the five film version inserts that probably came later in the process. None of them is on the Deluxe Edition, they are all unreleased.? However, one must say that they're all poorly integrated into the original cues and their sound and orchestration? is blatantly different at times. I would not want them in my main program, as the originally intended versions are fine and fit better to the rest of the score.
That said, it's up to you, Yavar, whether you want to include The 'Burbs in your survey. I'm fine with the current release.
As I mentioned in the other March 15 thread, The 'Burbs is my main wish list title for this batch whether they expand it with the above cues or reissue the current Deluxe Edition as an Encore Edition.
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Ahh. My favorite composer. My choices are:
1. Planet of the Apes
I'd love a 50th anniversary re-release of all five scores from the original Apes movies.
Some comments just age *really* well, don't they? 
I never did tally up results on this iteration of the poll, and already my poll is out of date because tons of folks voted for Planet of the Apes, and besides that Raggedy Man was also reissued by Varese (though it sold out extremely quickly), with apparently no additional music of significance to be added. So two key Varese-controlled titles are essentially checked off the list...and if Varese has started licensing their in-perpetuity titles to other labels, this whole discussion might be moot anyway! 
Oh...and I guess there are also at least two other titles listed as Varese in my original post here, which they do not in fact control because they are controlled by Masters Film Music instead; folks here might find my two part interview with Robert Townson very interesting:
http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/1301242-odyssey-interviews-robert-townson-part-1
http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/1361503-odyssey-interviews-robert-townson-part-2
Part 2 is especially full of informational tidbits from Robert, that confirm a number of things we have wondered about:
1. If Robert had stayed at Varese, Air Force One was his next priority to expand.
2. Love Field has 15-20 minutes of unreleased music (including a 10 minute long action cue which he sadly had to leave off because of re-use fees!) according to his recollection.
3. The Fierce Creatures album was definitely every note of the complete score, and then some! Jerry wrote and recorded several extra cues to pad out the album to full length.
4. He basically confirms that Criminal Law's album was the complete score, and in a bit that we cut out of the podcast for redundancy, he confirmed that between both volumes of Lionheart, he included every single cue for the score (I did not bring up the one cue "The Future" which was missing its ending, crossfaded into the repeat of the finale cue).
5. He confirms that both The Final Conflict and Lionheart are controlled in perpetuity by *him* and the label he originally founded to release them -- Masters Film Music -- and *not* controlled by Varese Sarabande in perpetuity, despite their collaborating with him originally on Lionheart and later releasing an (incomplete) Deluxe Edition of The Final Conflict. Robert indicated that definitive complete versions of both of these scores could possibly still be produced by him, post-Varese departure!
6. Jerry's rejected score to Babe (which I've heard was 75-90% completed, in full written score which still survives) was definitely *not* recorded in Melbourne, as planned. According to Robert, Jerry "pulled out before he went to Australia" to record it and tackled an Alex North re-recording with his suddenly freed-up time. So it didn't happen despite some records in Melbourne indicating it was. He also says "it's not out of the question", in regards to a brand new premiere recording of Jerry's work, perhaps even performed live to film in concert! As a big fan of the film, that is certainly an exciting prospect!
Yavar
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Now that Air Force One: The Deluxe Edition has been released maybe I should re-run this poll again, LOL...
Yavar
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I'd go for a recording of BABE.
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It's time for "Rudy" to get an expanded treatment.
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U.S. Marshals - complete
I second that!
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U.S. Marshals - complete
I third that!
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U.S. Marshals - complete
I fourth that!
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I think The Other is definitely the most important of these titles to be considered, for the quality of the score as opposed to the popularity of the film. The isolated score on the blu-ray really highlights what a great job Goldsmith did initially, before much of it was cut.
And The Mephisto Waltz, if the missing elements were ever found.
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Now that Air Force One: The Deluxe Edition has been released maybe I should re-run this poll again, LOL...
Yavar
It seems like it could free enough votes to re-order the lower rankings.
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I'd go for a recording of BABE.
That would be incredible if it existed. A rerecording maybe? Does Varese still do re-recordings?
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