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 Posted:   Dec 12, 2018 - 2:46 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

But are we simply retreading that often trodden path of “But what I really want is...” and taking the spotlight away from what could be an opportunity to rejoice that a label has embarked on a new recording of a score that hasn’t been released in full before?

Chris


Yes, it is as annoying, rude, and counterproductive as it is predictable.

NK


Annoying and rude it may be...and I'm certainly no angel when it comes to this issue. But counterproductive? I'm not so sure about that -- if it keeps bumping this thread about Quartet's new recording to the top of the board, I'd say it is probably a positive impact on Quartet's sales if anything.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2018 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)

Ok you've made me curious: what flaw is that, Roger? (And is there any chance of an expanded/complete release of this version of the score?)

Yavar


The cue The Knife repeats the alternating chords of the end of The Murder rather than the descending chords that sort of mimic the motion of falling down the stairs in the original composition. No idea why he changed that. I was talking to Universal about expanding this with UMG just a few weeks ago. So keep your fingers crossed.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2018 - 3:36 PM   
 By:   notkafkaesque   (Member)

But are we simply retreading that often trodden path of “But what I really want is...” and taking the spotlight away from what could be an opportunity to rejoice that a label has embarked on a new recording of a score that hasn’t been released in full before?

Chris


Yes, it is as annoying, rude, and counterproductive as it is predictable.

NK


Annoying and rude it may be...and I'm certainly no angel when it comes to this issue.

But counterproductive? I'm not so sure about that -- if it keeps bumping this thread about Quartet's new recording to the top of the board, I'd say it is probably a positive impact on Quartet's sales if anything.

Yavar


Of course you are assuming that discussions about the actual topic of the thread will not be enough to keep the topic current. And it is easy to bump a thread without changing the topic, if you want to cheerlead sales.

I'm not expecting any changes from those relatively few on this board who give lip service to a fabulous new release before immediately trying change the subject to what they want next. But I will vent from time to time. And according to you, I may have just helped sell a few more copies!

NK

 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2018 - 3:47 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

The cue The Knife repeats the alternating chords of the end of The Murder rather than the descending chords that sort of mimic the motion of falling down the stairs in the original composition. No idea why he changed that. I was talking to Universal about expanding this with UMG just a few weeks ago. So keep your fingers crossed.

I will -- that's a most exciting prospect! Is there any hope/possibility of perhaps a bonus 2nd disc with the original Psycho film recording, in whatever state it survives? (I gather the sound might be less than ideal, so maybe it would work better as 2nd disc than on its own). Or is that something still tied up by Stylotone or whatnot?

It's not as if there isn't precedent for this sort of twofer, with LLL's neat combo of both the original and remake scores for The Miracle on 34th Street.

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Of course you are assuming that discussions about the actual topic of the thread will not be enough to keep the topic current. And it is easy to bump a thread without changing the topic, if you want to cheerlead sales.

Oh, I don't assume that at all! I just think every little bump helps, and that the speculation/requests don't actually risk hurting the sales of this fine release, but only result in giving it more prominence and attention. I certainly hope that *after* people receive their discs, there is actual discussion about the music (much of which will never have been heard before except by those at Herrmann's original sessions) and recording.

I'm not expecting any changes from those relatively few on this board who give lip service to a fabulous new release before immediately trying change the subject to what they want next. But I will vent from time to time. And according to you, I may have just helped sell a few more copies!

Oh yeah, you're certainly just as entitled to vent about others requesting/speculating as others are to request/speculate, and I do think it helps the thread in the same way. I honestly think it all helps, as long as people don't get negative about this release.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2018 - 4:06 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

I prefer this album's cover to look like this:



or



The Bride Wore Black lingerie!

 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2018 - 4:51 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

I'd like to hear the Magnificent Ambersons recorded by Chandos for their Film Music Series, to complement their rather good recording of Citizen Kane. I thought Kane was one of the best Rumon Gamba performances and I prefer it to the Bremner or McNeely discs. I like the soprano better too.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2018 - 8:02 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


I'm greatly looking forward to THE BRIDE WORE BLACK. I hope Bill Stromberg will not get discouraged and record another Herrmann score namely ON DANGEROUS GROUND. But ANY Stromberg CD would be most welcomed. In the meantime I await THE BRIDE WORE BLACK!

 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2018 - 9:27 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Ok you've made me curious: what flaw is that, Roger? (And is there any chance of an expanded/complete release of this version of the score?)

Yavar


The cue The Knife repeats the alternating chords of the end of The Murder rather than the descending chords that sort of mimic the motion of falling down the stairs in the original composition. No idea why he changed that. I was talking to Universal about expanding this with UMG just a few weeks ago. So keep your fingers crossed.


It's a fantastic release.
This plus the suite conducted by Bennie on the Phase Four GREAT HITCHCOCK THRILLERS should satisfy any sane PSYCHO fan..
Brm

P.S. HOPE Intrada releases it as it was never domestically distributed.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2018 - 3:51 AM   
 By:   couvee   (Member)

Did anyone already receive The Bride Wore Black from Quartet? I ordered it the day it was released but no shipping yet. I am eager to listen to this.

Linked to this thread was that Mr. Stromberg wanted to record this very same score. So I echoed an earlier post that if he is looking for something else to record my choice would be 'The Ghost and Mrs Muir'. I also consider this one of the best Herrmann scores. It deserves a complete new recording as I too think the old recording is too muffled to appreciate the music to the max and the Bernstein re-recording is just too incomplete and great bits are missing. I think it is very fitting to discuss this matter in this thread.

I enjoy reading all these comments on Herrmann and I learn a lot of unexpected things. One of them is about the recording Danny Elfman did of Psycho. It is my preferred version of Psycho (and I have all of them, including the short suites that were recorded many times). So I'm very pleased that there may be a chance this will be re-issued in a more complete form. I also had no idea the end of 'the Knife' was altered, but now it was pointed out I listened to it closely and compared the recordings. It sounds like Elfman just ends the cue more abrupt.

I personally like these discussions and I think it is fitting to have them in this thread about The Bride Wore Black. It is about Herrmann, it is about re-recordings, and in the end it also turns out to be concerning Mr. Stromberg. For me any Herrmann re-recording is a must buy, but I do have my personal favorites and I really like to hear from other people what their favorites are.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2018 - 3:56 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

WOW, I just checked out the Elfman Psycho on youtube...GOTTA have!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2018 - 6:33 AM   
 By:   michael469   (Member)

Have ordered this! My CC balance is going to be high.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2018 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Did anyone already receive The Bride Wore Black from Quartet? I ordered it the day it was released but no shipping yet. I am eager to listen to this.

Don't worry about shipping notices.

When I ordered Masquerade, I received the disc first, got the shipping notice second.

Mine was attempted delivery today, like an idiot I chose expedited delivery forgetting that means if I'm not home when they arrive, I have to play the 'while you were out' card game. Pity.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2018 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   Jerome Piroue   (Member)

I'm receiving my mail-order BRIDE tomorrow!! Youhooooo! There is BH love in the air! big grin

That is fast service, no?
Not like my SAE order, which I made 3 days prior and they're still wondering if they should send or not.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2018 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   John Black   (Member)

Is SAE currently slammed by bad weather? I'm hearing that portions of the east coast are battling foul weather conditions.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2018 - 1:00 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I'm receiving my mail-order BRIDE tomorrow!! Youhooooo! There is BH love in the air! big grin

That is fast service, no?
Not like my SAE order, which I made 3 days prior and they're still wondering if they should send or not.


smile smile smile

Can't wait to order mine! Friday's COMIN'!

Still need other new stuff too, I'm way behind on new releases arrrrgh!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2018 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

We WERE....that was Sunday!

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2018 - 2:12 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Interestingly I find the Elfman version of Psycho a near perfect recording of the score both in terms of tempo and orchestral detail. It has one glaring flaw, but otherwise it really is definitive.

That may be so. I blinked and missed the Elfman version and now it seems to be like the rarest CD on the planet, so it's one version I never heard. If it's all you say it is, I want it for sure.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2018 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Interestingly I find the Elfman version of Psycho a near perfect recording of the score both in terms of tempo and orchestral detail. It has one glaring flaw, but otherwise it really is definitive.

That may be so. I blinked and missed the Elfman version and now it seems to be like the rarest CD on the planet, so it's one version I never heard. If it's all you say it is, I want it for sure.

Cheers


Looks like we'll both be searchin'.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2018 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   crocodile   (Member)

Now THAT would be a good title for expansion. I also missed that album but it's a terrific recording of Herrmann's score. I also like that little logo cue that Elfman did for this film.

Karol

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2018 - 11:13 PM   
 By:   Jerome Piroue   (Member)

Missed it too. I already had two versions. Thought it was enough. frown

Also, I resented the fact that on this edition, they didn't feature the Imagine logo bit or the end credits, which is played with electric guitar. That was soooo cool.

 
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