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It’s not my fault you don’t have the attention span for more than two sentences per post. But if you value civility, maybe reflect on the posts of yours I quoted and whether you could have exercised a bit more of it instead of being insulting towards those who are producing this release as well as those who are (however shockingly to you) excited for it. Yavar
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RED RIVER and DUEL IN THE SUN are classic magnificent scores that put BLACK PATCH to shame. I like Duel in the Sun considerably more out of the two because it has more variety, but please tell me a cue and timestamp from Red River that has as beautiful a theme as the one I posted above from YouTube for Black Patch. Like I said, spurred on by your post I revisited the entire score and didn’t hear one. Yavar
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I guess I know it's a film (Joan of Arc) that exists, but it's pretty obscure now No need to guess. There's plenty of Academy Award proof of its existence... it had an Oscar nominated score, Oscar nominated actress, Oscar nominated supporting actor, Oscar nominated editing, Oscar nominated art direction... Oscar Winner for cinematography, Oscar Winner for costume design, and more. and it's seventy-three years old. Seventy-three years... the very same year as other magnificent scores like Steiner's The Adventures of Don Juan and The Treasure of the Sierra Madre. A veritable treasure trove year for film music. I went to film school, and I've never seen a frame of this film, and I would imagine it only gets more obscure for people ten and twenty years younger than me. I'd estimate that of the millions who have seen this film, at the cinema or through hundreds and hundreds of TV showings all over the world, less than 0.02 of them ever attended a film school. But some of the film's many Oscar Winners and Nominees might have done.
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Amazing that while I think most people would see a Kickstarter as an opportunity they otherwise would not have had, others instead see it as a ransom demand. All I can say is that I’m glad that’s not a mindset I have to live with. It doesn’t strike me as clever, just sad. Yavar
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I will contribute, though not sure yet how. I'm probably most interested in the high-res download, but in this case would probably also want the the CD (with the booklet etc. for the shelf), but there doesn't seem to be an option that includes both.
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I don't get it... Kickstarter is a great way to get projects off the ground. A re-recording like this costs a lot of money, and Kickstarter is just a way to see if actually enough people would support such a release by asking them to support it BEFORE the release. If enough people fund this, everyone gets their CD and the label does not face an enormous loss. Everybody's happy. Or should be. Or could be.
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I would buy a new recording of Hugo Friedhofer's score for Joan of Arc, by all means anyone go for it. Though I don't know how realistic a preposition that is. But this Kickstarter is about Goldsmith's THE BLACK PATCH/THE MAN, which is an instant support-buy for me, as I have never seen either movie nor heard a clip of their respective scores.
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I would buy a new recording of Hugo Friedhofer's score for Joan of Arc, by all means anyone go for it. Though I don't know how realistic a preposition that is. Even in 2007 - at a time when there were still quite a lot of Golden Age CD releases from the various US labels - Roger posted this on the Intrada board: "JOAN OF ARC would be great, but Friedhofer has such a small market that he may not immediately warrant the costs of a rerecording." http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=923&hilit=joan+of+arc Now it is 14 years later and unfortunately interest in Golden Age scores has more and more dwindled down - also due to the fact that many collectors interested in such a score have passed away or are too old in the meantime. I myself would support a re-recording of JOAN OF ARC in a heartbeat with certainly a pledge of $100 - and would do the same for Friedhofer´s VERA CRUZ -, but how many people are still around who would do the same? Here on this board it´s always only the same few people who are asking for a re-recording of JOAN OF ARC, but I doubt that there are hundreds of them which is a sad fact. And I suppose that in 5 years or more there will be even less people around as even more of the interested ones are just not there anymore. So the longer the wait is for a new recording of this score, the less people will be there to support it. Younger collectors certainly won´t replace the old ones. And how many will really support such a recording with $1000 or more? In my opinion it is therefore very unlikely that such a recording will still happen in the future. Maybe a Kickstarter campaign could at least have been tried out now, but in 3 or 5 years from now on? Also such a JOAN OF ARC recording would of course be very expensive and the rather cheap $38.000 amount of the current Goldsmith Kickstarter campaign would not be sufficient. Probably even twice the amount for such a large orchestra plus chorus willl be needed. Who will pay for all this in current or even in future times?
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