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 Posted:   Oct 12, 2019 - 9:45 PM   
 By:   jkheiser   (Member)

My copy arrived today.

Before ripping it into iTunes, I had to fix a couple of the ID3 tags. Somebody submitted the album title as “Air Force One: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack (Deluxe Edition) - Disc One”

Good grief. Belts and suspenders. Just “Air Force One” suffices.

And never put the disc number in the title. There’s a dedicated field for that. Adding it makes this soundtrack appear as two things in whatever MP3 player you use.

They also put 2019 for the year. No. This music is from 1997.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2019 - 10:52 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)


Can you closely listen to "Air Force One In Trouble" with headphones and report back?


I'm not sure what you're wanting me to listen for?


From what I hear, you should be able to tell in the last minute pretty easily if you're listening with headphones.

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2019 - 4:31 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

My copy arrived today.

Before ripping it into iTunes, I had to fix a couple of the ID3 tags. Somebody submitted the album title as “Air Force One: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack (Deluxe Edition) - Disc One”

Good grief. Belts and suspenders. Just “Air Force One” suffices.

And never put the disc number in the title. There’s a dedicated field for that. Adding it makes this soundtrack appear as two things in whatever MP3 player you use.

They also put 2019 for the year. No. This music is from 1997.


On multi-disc sets, I prefer to have the disc # in the album title. I personally find it easier on both my iPod and iPhone to have the option to pick either disc 1 or disc 2 that I want to hear any any given time. It's not much different than choosing side A or side B on an LP or flipping over the record is akin to moving to Disc 2 on my iPod when disc 1 is finished. I also didn't mind have the full "Air Force One: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack (Deluxe Edition)", I don't see what the big deal is with that. But I agree that the year should have read 1997 for sure!

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2019 - 5:08 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

My copy arrived today.

Before ripping it into iTunes, I had to fix a couple of the ID3 tags. Somebody submitted the album title as “Air Force One: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack (Deluxe Edition) - Disc One”

Good grief. Belts and suspenders. Just “Air Force One” suffices.

And never put the disc number in the title. There’s a dedicated field for that. Adding it makes this soundtrack appear as two things in whatever MP3 player you use.

They also put 2019 for the year. No. This music is from 1997.


On multi-disc sets, I prefer to have the disc # in the album title. I personally find it easier on both my iPod and iPhone to have the option to pick either disc 1 or disc 2 that I want to hear any any given time. It's not much different than choosing side A or side B on an LP or flipping over the record is akin to moving to Disc 2 on my iPod when disc 1 is finished. I also didn't mind have the full "Air Force One: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack (Deluxe Edition)", I don't see what the big deal is with that. But I agree that the year should have read 1997 for sure!


Tom! Tom. I cannot get with you on this series of beliefs. I thought the guy from the OP was crazy as well, but that was mostly because of his presentation (I agree with most of what he’s doing, though you have to identify which version of AFO it is; just writing The Deluxe Edition would be enough, in this case). Why would you want to recreate the stop and start of the 2CD/LP release? What happens if you’re driving? 10 and 2, Tom. 10 and 2!

People’s differing viewpoints on how they present their scores digitally are fascinating to me. Seems like there’s a right way and a wrong way, forgetting things like the use of parentheses versus brackets. But there’s already a thread about THAT, I believe.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2019 - 5:25 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

I always rip my CDs clearly with no tags. Every CD I own is tagged the same. Digitial files too, I wipe any existing tags and tag them myself.

(I would likely go with "Air Force One: The Deluxe Edition" here)

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2019 - 6:06 AM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)


Can you closely listen to "Air Force One In Trouble" with headphones and report back?


I'm not sure what you're wanting me to listen for?


From what I hear, you should be able to tell in the last minute pretty easily if you're listening with headphones.


Please tell us what is wrong with the end of this track. The suspense is killing me!

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2019 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

Everyone has their own labeling preferences. I honestly prefer it to read as it says on the album. I don't see the point of "Disc One and Disc Two" since you're ripping it to digital, it's now just one album (and as said, there are fields for disc numbers). I have ZERO use for reel tagging (3m3-4m1 etc), I am fine with the title of the cue.

Then there are the people who put under composer "Williams, John Towner" or "Jerry Goldsmith/Jerrald Goldsmith (1929-2004)." Simply "Jerry Goldsmith" or even "Goldsmith, Jerry" is more than adequate.

Those are easy fields to change, but when someone puts all sorts of crap in the titles of the cues themselves, and there are like 50 to change individually, I get cranky.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2019 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   funkymonkeyjavajunky   (Member)

Still waiting for my order to ship.
roll eyes

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2019 - 5:03 PM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

I don't recall the opening of the film. Does it begin with the fanfare-march theme (as it does on the OST)? That part of the theme always sounded like it was in mixed meter when in actuality the release of the snare drum on 4+ (the 'an') creates that musical impression. Just ingenious!

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2019 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I don't recall the opening of the film. Does it begin with the fanfare-march theme? That part of the theme always sounded like it was in mixed meter when in actuality the release of the snare drum on 4+ (the 'an') creates that musical impression. Just ingenious!


Yeah it’s over the title sequence.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2019 - 5:41 PM   
 By:   Trent B   (Member)

I now believe the score is a little too bright. I used 'mackie mid cut' and sounds A LOT better and more natural.

For "Air Force One In Trouble" I have no idea what people are asking me to report about. I hear nothing wrong with the cue.

Just finished working on this clip. It was a whopper. Here's Newman's rejected Hijacking cue restored with as much sound effects and dialogue as possible. I had to post it on Vimeo as Youtube will block it.

Check it out.

The Hijacking:
https://vimeo.com/365932818


Thanks for that.

It is interesting to watch the clip and listen to Newman's original score. I don't blame the producers for rejecting it and hiring Goldsmith. Newman's score just seems out of place and doesn't fit the picture very well.

not quite sure if i understand this mono opening up thing


There are two foot warmers (boots) out there. One is one that leaked years ago where the unreleased Goldsmith cues were in mono. This included the film version for "Parachute Attack" and with how "The Parachutes" opened up in this cue is how it opens up in the "End Credits". Thus my firm belief that is how it originally was recorded and not presented as Track 1 on the first disc.

Edit: When I rip CDs onto my computer if it has more than one disc I will label the folders as "Disc 1", "Disc 2", etc...

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2019 - 6:24 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Still waiting for my order to ship.
roll eyes


Maybe you should cancel it- if it's NOT TOO LATE!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2019 - 2:01 AM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

Forgive my ignorance I'm a newbie too AFO - this seems like a project that Jerry could handle his self with ease - what was/is McNeely needed for on this picture did Goldsmith contact him or was this another dictator-director - i see a good few tracks of Mac its not a bad-thing just a mystery.

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2019 - 2:10 AM   
 By:   batman&robin   (Member)

Just scroll up some posts here above and you'll find your answer.

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2019 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Forgive my ignorance I'm a newbie too AFO - this seems like a project that Jerry could handle his self with ease - what was/is McNeely needed for on this picture did Goldsmith contact him or was this another dictator-director - i see a good few tracks of Mac its not a bad-thing just a mystery.

This question has been answered at least three times in this thread already....

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2019 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Forgive my ignorance I'm a newbie too AFO - this seems like a project that Jerry could handle his self with ease - what was/is McNeely needed for on this picture did Goldsmith contact him or was this another dictator-director - i see a good few tracks of Mac its not a bad-thing just a mystery.

Not a mystery at all; Robert Townson relates the complete story of Jerry's time crunch and how Joel McNeely got involved a bit over an hour into our conversation, here:
http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/1301242-odyssey-interviews-robert-townson-part-1

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2019 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Forgive my ignorance I'm a newbie too AFO - this seems like a project that Jerry could handle his self with ease - what was/is McNeely needed for on this picture did Goldsmith contact him or was this another dictator-director - i see a good few tracks of Mac its not a bad-thing just a mystery.

Because Jerry was just too lazy to finish the damn thing himself!








Do I really need to use the WINKY icon?

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2019 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

A funny joke would be better.

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2019 - 1:58 PM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

A funny joke would be better.

Or silence...

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2019 - 2:58 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

A funny joke would be better.

Or silence...


Hey I'm just giving the question the answer it deserves.
As Mutant said , it's already been answered- multiple times!

 
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