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 Posted:   Mar 27, 2005 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   afn   (Member)

This CD single-handedly takes the Nr.1 spot for best score of the year 2004 for me. A creepy yet melancholy atmosphere of dread and solitude, a perfect and varied orchestration with the unique and surreal sounding theremin, some cues in the most effective Herrmann vein of vibraphone and flutes over harsh strings.

Composer Roque Banos didn't use an overly large orchestra, proving another point I've noticed over the years: the smaller the orchestra, the richer and more colorful the orchestration.
A brilliant and most listenable score, a gem.

Every serious film music fan should have this CD, honestly.


(get it at: www.discoweb.com, for example)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2005 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   FalkirkBairn   (Member)


I was told that my copy was sent on the 22nd. So hopefully I'll get it after this holiday weekend.

Definitely looking forward to it.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2005 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   Membership Expired   (Member)


Composer Roque Banos didn't use an overly large orchestra, proving another point I've noticed over the years: the smaller the orchestra, the richer and more colorful the orchestration.


This is off course nonsense.

Richness and color of music is dictated more by the talent and skill of the composer then by the size of his orchestra.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2005 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   afn   (Member)

Yes, Stefan, but you can't fail to notice that most composers today are not up to the standards of decades or even centuries ago reg. orchestration, and when they get the memo from the producer, "Just make it sound BIG!", most times they do just that. Composers using smaller ensembles tend to get a little more freedom from their directors because also the film projects tend to be more "refined" or arthouse-like than your average Bruckheimer extravaganza, so the music also calls for more "refinement".

So somehow smaller projects and musical refinement seem to go hand in hand to a degree, don't you think? (of course there are exceptions both ways!)

That is probably why people like Gabriel Yared don't get assigned to ARMAGEDDON 2 (or they refuse in the first place!).
Writing for 120 players AND make it rich and varied in orchestration is scarce these days (and looking at the TROY disaster just seems to prove my point - it's apparently not even wanted on the REALLY big screen).
I've heard many a 120 player score with very little orchestrational refinement, but seldom a 40 or 50 player one that didn't have at least some of it.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2005 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   Alexcremers   (Member)

Just listening to the 'Orpheus Chamber orchestra' playing the music of Stravinsky. Stravinsky is no loser but the music doesn't sound big. A smaller orchestra sounds ... smaller, no matter who the composer is.

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Alex Cremers - looking forward to see and hear 'The Machinist'.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2005 - 2:33 PM   
 By:   afn   (Member)

Uhm... Alex, so what's your point? Is bigger always better?

Does size matter?!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2005 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   Alexcremers   (Member)

Uhm... Alex, so what's your point? Is bigger always better?

Does size matter?!


Apparently, yes. If they want "something big", you simply have to give them "something big". Your skills won't cheat anybody.

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Alex Cremers

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2005 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   Jon A. Bell   (Member)

Every serious film music fan should have this CD, honestly.

(get it at: www.discoweb.com, for example)


I really wish the dollar were stronger -- as it stands, getting this one CD from Spain is going to cost people in the U.S. around $40!

I still want to get a copy of this, but... damn.

-- Jon

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2005 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   mankind77   (Member)

http://www.epdlp.com/compbso.php?id=430

Baños is a simply amazing composer. Visit the link above for some soundclips of his past work.

Some of my favorite scores of his are:

Carreteras Secundarias (amazing score!)
La comunidad
Muertos De Risa
800 Balas
Segunda Piel

Some of his CD's are still available through footlight records in the US. A bit expensive, but worth it!

Matt

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2005 - 7:23 PM   
 By:   Jon A. Bell   (Member)

http://www.epdlp.com/compbso.php?id=430

Baños is a simply amazing composer. Visit the link above for some soundclips of his past work.


Are there any soundclips from "The Machinist" online? I've been looking around, but haven't found any. Thanks,

-- Jon

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2005 - 11:35 PM   
 By:   afn   (Member)

I can send you one if you drop me an email (see my profile).

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2005 - 12:46 AM   
 By:   w-dervish   (Member)


I really wish the dollar were stronger -- as it stands, getting this one CD from Spain is going to cost people in the U.S. around $40!


I have no clue as to what this is. If it costs $40 I am not going to bother finding out.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2005 - 12:55 AM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

Try to get it cheaper throught eBay... smile

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2005 - 2:03 AM   
 By:   Jon A. Bell   (Member)

Try to get it cheaper throught eBay... smile

Uh, we've already been through this. You're selling it on eBay, and charging in British pounds, or currency equivalent to $34.00 U.S., plus shipping...

...which brings it up to $40.

-- Jon

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2005 - 2:26 AM   
 By:   mankind77   (Member)

For a small taste of the music, go here:

http://www.themachinistthemovie.com/

Click Enter Flash Site. Fantastic stuff!

Matt

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2005 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)



I really wish the dollar were stronger -- as it stands, getting this one CD from Spain is going to cost people in the U.S. around $40!

I still want to get a copy of this, but... damn.


Well, now you know what we in the UK have had to put up with for so long... smile smile

If you order it via discoweb's UK branch (.co.uk), it's £9.07 + £3.49 shipping to the Rest of the World. That's about $23-$24.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2005 - 8:48 PM   
 By:   Jon A. Bell   (Member)



Well, now you know what we in the UK have had to put up with for so long... smile smile

If you order it via discoweb's UK branch (.co.uk), it's £9.07 + £3.49 shipping to the Rest of the World. That's about $23-$24.


Richard and Matt, thanks for the info.

At this price (and after hearing a very Bernard Herrmann/"Twilight-Zone-ish" sound clip on the site), I placed my order this morning. Can't wait to hear the whole thing!

-- Jon

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2005 - 10:22 PM   
 By:   David Coscina   (Member)

I also am very impressed by the cue that underscores the Flash site. Very Herrmannesque. Also a very fluid piece on its own. Hope someone distributes this in North America at some point.

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2005 - 4:32 AM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Yes!

http://screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm?ID=4551

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2005 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

I preordered it from SAE after listening to one cue, sounds really great cant wait for this one.
sd

 
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