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 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 2:04 PM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Executive Decision? Is that complete?

Nope. It's one of Varese Sarabande's 30-minute albums and they own it in perpetuity.

One can dream... smile

Yikes

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 7:46 PM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

Executive Decision? Is that complete?

Nope. It's one of Varese Sarabande's 30-minute albums and they own it in perpetuity.

One can dream... smile

Yikes


The statement was tongue-in-cheek but the film and score are both guilty pleasures.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 8:07 PM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Executive Decision? Is that complete?

Nope. It's one of Varese Sarabande's 30-minute albums and they own it in perpetuity.

One can dream... smile

Yikes


The statement was tongue-in-cheek but the film and score are both guilty pleasures.


Which part was tongue and cheek?

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 3:47 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Edited the first post to reflect the new Varese DE of Star Trek: Nemesis. I had written:
"Star Trek: Nemesis (though with Lukas Kendall and Paramount on the job maybe this one will actually come out?)"

Turns out that's exactly what happened! So exciting to see Lukas's name as producer on a Varese release, with Jeff Bond writing notes to boot! This gives me high hopes that he might pursue expanding other scores (not just the many worthy ones by Goldsmith) that Varese holds in perpetuity.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2013 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I've edited my first post here once again, slightly modifying the opening paragraph to reflect the two recent expansions (Nemesis and QBVII as a rerecording).

I've also just removed the entry for QBVII, since it seems unlikely that the original film recording will ever be found -- though stranger things have happened and I'd certainly be happy to be proven wrong! I'd written: "QBVII -- One of my absolute favorite Goldsmith scores and the existing LP program is woefully incomplete (I think it may actually be a re-recording anyway). According to the folks at Intrada the original tapes for this are lost so unless they miraculously turn up we just have to hound James Fitzpatrick to re-record the whole thing. At one point he seemed open to the idea, even after he'd said the Tadlow label was ceasing. Maybe a Prometheus release in the new Goldsmith series?"

Thanks to James, Luc, Nic, and Mr. Purvis the orchestrator! Now since he didn't work on this one (was too busy on The Salamander at the time), I wonder what it is Mr. Phillips teased us about earlier this year on Twitter...a Goldsmith release or something else?

Yavar

P.S. Here's the amazing video of the QBVII finale performance:

 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2014 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

One of the last remaining totally unreleased (officially) Goldsmith scores has just come out, and it's perhaps the most important: The List of Adrian Messenger!
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=1&threadID=101677&archive=0

Thanks, Varese!

I've updated the main post to remove the following which I'd written: "The List of Adrian Messenger -- I still hold out hope that Varese will put this out as a Club release sooner or later, as they did all the others from Goldsmith's early years at Universal."

Looks like my hope held out!

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2014 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   rickO   (Member)

Glad to see this one released.

Spiral Road, A Gathering of Eagles, Freud, Lonely Are the Brave .... and now List of Adrian Messenger. Another puzzle piece in place.

-Rick O.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2014 - 3:15 PM   
 By:   dbrooks   (Member)

I would love to see Ghost and the Darkness, and the Mummy but I want a expanded release of my all time favorite score Rudy.

 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2014 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I too would love Varese to do a Deluxe Edition of Rudy.

I assume you are aware, of course, that the complete score is at least available as a bonus feature isolated on the DVD of the film. Worth getting. Hopefully it doesn't dissuade Varese from a complete CD reissue.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2014 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   dbrooks   (Member)

Reply to Yavar:

Yes. I remember buying the movie years ago but I never got around to listening to the isolated score. Will have to give that a try. I agree with you in hope that this doesn't prevent Varese from giving this beautiful score a deserved expansion. A lot of sports fans prefer Hoosiers score over Rudy. IMO I never understood that. When that Dick's Sporting Goods commercial played "Tryouts" it gained some popular attention though.

 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2014 - 5:54 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Reply to Yavar:

Yes. I remember buying the movie years ago but I never got around to listening to the isolated score. Will have to give that a try. I agree with you in hope that this doesn't prevent Varese from giving this beautiful score a deserved expansion. A lot of sports fans prefer Hoosiers score over Rudy. IMO I never understood that. When that Dick's Sporting Goods commercial played "Tryouts" it gained some popular attention though.


There's a cue someone called "The Letter" which is probably the only real substantial cue missing from the Rudy soundtrack.

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2014 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I have substantially updated the entries in the main post for Shamus and Pursuit, after re-reading something Lukas wrote about them in his reminiscences on FSM's remaining catalogue (from a couple years ago). In the section on The Last Run (a score for which the original recording is apparently lost but at least the album recording is incredibly similar), he said: "I love this era of Goldsmith's 'mod' writing--'Border Crossing' from The Last Run is a prime example. Unfortunately two of the better scores in this style, Shamus and the ABC TV movie Pursuit, are kaput as far as master tapes."

So unless the tapes are miraculously found (in which case I suspect Intrada would make a point of putting them out), I think our only hope for these titles is a Tadlow re-recording for Prometheus records (hence I will shortly be updating my Wish List thread for that). They would make a nice pairing and Mr. Fitzpatrick has already produced the only release of any music from Pursuit, in a CoPP re-recording for Silva Screen (included on their four disc Goldsmith set, if anyone's interested). Clearly he doesn't look down on the "mod" style and he's said on multiple occasions that it would not be hard to replicate the sound in a re-recording, as many people has voiced doubts about it. Since he has previously captured the 60s pop feel so well for the pop version of the Hour of the Gun theme, as well as doing accurate synthesizers for The Salamander, I think he could pull these two off wonderfully!

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2014 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Time for another update thanks to LaLaLand! It's a rather surprising title to me, despite the recent thread with a decent amount of praise for the score which I had linked to in the entry my first post:

"The Sum of All Fears (Elektra -- Warner Bros. Records) -- conceivably this could come from LaLaLand or possibly Intrada, and I learned from a recent thread praising the score that there is some worthy material unreleased: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=94384&forumID=1&archive=0"

Here's LLL's announcement sheet:
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=1&threadID=102109&archive=0

What's remarkable about this release is that it was the most recent unexpanded Goldsmith score besides Varese in-perpetuity titles. I think the previous most recent non-Varese Goldsmith score to get expanded was The Edge (also by LLL).

Yavar

P.S. I should also make note of LLL's excellent reissue of The Blue Max. While Intrada's issue of several years ago was the complete score, LLL has added some missing source music and the CD premiere of Goldsmith's original album configuration. Everything has been remastered by Michael Mattesino and the improvement in sound is supposed to be substantial! The reissue is also fortunate for new fans because the Intrada sold out 2500 copies in something like a day...

 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2014 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)


I think the previous most recent non-Varese Goldsmith score to get expanded was The Edge (also by LLL).


Nope! The Edge was from 1997, and 1998's Star Trek Insurrection was expanded by GNP Crescendo last year.

 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2014 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

My two most-wanted Goldsmith expansions are an expanded/deluxe/complete Ghost and the Darkness or expanded/deluxe/complete The River Wild. These are my two holiest of grails in the expansion department as far as Goldsmith music is concerned.

 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2014 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)


Nope! The Edge was from 1997, and 1998's Star Trek Insurrection was expanded by GNP Crescendo last year.


You're right, of course. I guess I was mentally exclusing both Insurrection and the recent Nemesis from inclusion, because the Trek score expansions started to be mandated by Paramount at some point...but come to think of it, perhaps the same thing was the case with the Jack Ryan films, especially with the recent addition to the series.

So I should have said "barring Trek" rather than just excluding Varese.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2014 - 3:04 PM   
 By:   TruPretender   (Member)

Well I am holding out for "Psycho II" or "Supergirl." I would also LOVE a sound update for "Secret of NIMH" and a full release of "Legend" with all the alternate and unused cues that were on the boot once ago...

 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2014 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

Still waiting on SMALL SOLDIERS. Sixteen years, this summer.

What's the thinking here? 'A complete release of a Jerry Goldsmith score to a Joe Dante movie? That would never sell!'

Inexcusable doesn't even scratch the surface of how to best describe this.

 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2014 - 3:45 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I'm glad I waited an extra day to update this, because now I can update TWO Goldsmith titles (for those who missed LLL's April releases thread) and retire them from the list of those scores which need "definitive" versions: Psycho II is being released complete by Intrada, and Dennis the Menace is being released by LLL. Here are the respective FSM threads for any who missed them:
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=102609&forumID=1&archive=0
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=102655&forumID=1&archive=0

I have updated my original post to reflect these two releases. I had written, "Psycho II (MCA --> UMG) -- I'll eat my hat if Intrada doesn't get this out eventually. Or maybe Varese will shock everyone and stick it in a batch."

I'm glad I didn't have to eat my hat (I don't really wear them anyway) and I'm glad that Intrada was the one to put this out because according to Doug Fake we have Jeff Bond liner notes to look forward to! This release bodes well for other long OOP Goldsmith scores from Universal like MacArthur to get definitive issues.

As for today's announcement, I'd written, "Dennis the Menace (Big Screen Records) -- LaLaLand has already expanded some other former Big Screen Records titles like Forever Young, and I think this one will be coming up this year." Turns out I was spot on about the label but not the date, as it took over a year longer to come out than I expected. I'm glad it's out though; hopefully this delightful score will get a much-deserved reassessment as most Goldsmith scores do when released in complete form.

It's remarkable how quickly the 90s titles (the ones not held by Varese in perpetuity, that is) have been dwindling since my initial post. There are now very few from that decade that LaLaLand would have access to (unless they start doing more Universal/UMG titles, it's basically just The River Wild, a possible Basic Instinct reissue with some missing film versions of cues, and the very brief but Warner-held Six Degrees of Separation if there's any unreleased recordings/alternates to bother with), and we'll all have to wait and see how long it takes Intrada to get around to expanding stuff like The Mummy, The Last Castle, and the four Disney-owned titles.

I have also made various other updates to the original post, including links to recent threads on The Russia House (which had a link to the RunMovies article about what music is still missing and why a complete release would be worthwhile: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=102352&forumID=1&archive=0 ) and Babe (the 90s pig movie for which Jerry wrote an unused score, not the 70s TV movie that FSM released: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=102554&forumID=1&archive=0).

The latter thread is particularly exciting to me because Dan Goldwasser posted a picture of Goldsmith's written score for the film (which by the way is wonderful). According to Dan the score never actually made it to the recording stage, but others in the thread have cast doubts on this. If the score was recorded, it would most likely depend on Varese for a release because they released Nigel Westlake's final score for the film. Based on Dan's info, though, I have moved the title out of the Varese in-perpetuity list because Varese would have no jurisdiction over a new/premiere recording of the work. I for one hope that it is definitively answered whether a score was recorded, and if not, this is going to the very TOP of my wish list for the Tadlow/Prometheus Goldsmith series!

Yavar

 
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