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I’m with you in that preference, and I *like* Jerry’s harmonica writing… 
Bar Mitzvah is just such a gem.
Just over 40 minutes left to go, folks. If you’ve been waiting, don’t wait any longer!
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Campaign just ended at 43.6% over goal — Huzzah!! Now for me to get cracking on writing those “Legend That Walks Like a Man” liner notes. I can do that one by watching the episode, unlike “Hitler’s Secret”. Maybe I can even finish them before Leigh finishes reconstructing it by ear….
Yavar
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My apologies if this was already answered, but are there plans to make these available in a physical format at some point in the future?
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Whoa, missed this by the minute it seems, though I knew it was already through. I will in any case get it once it's out. (Backed the previous one.)
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Damn, I'm sorry Nicolai! That's why it's always good to just pledge any time during the 30 day window -- your payment method doesn't actually get charged until the very end of it!
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Damn, I'm sorry Nicolai! That's why it's always good to just pledge any time during the 30 day window -- your payment method doesn't actually get charged until the very end of it!
Yavar
No matter, it's through and I look forward to the recording either way. Loved the first two. Glad to see it happen and I hope there will be more.
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Well, the first campaign went over goal by more than 1000 pounds... which Leigh immediately turned around and applied to the second round (which is why the total goal for recording these two scores was 900 pounds less this time, despite them actually being more expensive to record because of the new brass elements for both).
Now THIS campaign has exceeded its goal by even more... almost 1200 pounds! Leigh tells me that overage will similarly be invested again in the next round, which should have an even lower goal if it's still just two scores. So I'd say there's a lot of great momentum and I'd be honestly surprised at this point if new recordings of all the extant GE Theater scores by Goldsmith didn't become a reality.
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My apologies if this was already answered, but are there plans to make these available in a physical format at some point in the future?
Yes, Leigh and I discussed it early on when he first reached out to The Goldsmith Odyssey about Bar Mitzvah, and I convinced him a CD edition was worth doing, if it went beyond that one digital single. (Actually he said a minimum of four scores would have to be funded, for a CD to make sense length-wise.)
At this point given the success of four score recordings being funded, we want to get as many of Goldsmith's GE Theater scores recorded as possible -- I think it's safe to assume people would prefer a single packed 78 minute CD with 8-9 complete episodic scores on it, rather than having to buy a 38 minute Volume 1 and a 40 minute Volume 2, right? So if you're a physical media hold-out, you're likely going to have to wait another year or so. But I should reiterate that the downloads Leigh makes available to Kickstarter backers, or later for purchase (only 4 pounds each at https://www.lpfilmmusic.co.uk/shop) are still all in lossless CD quality, with a PDF of extensive liner notes*. Everything but the plastic!
*In fact, when the CD edition comes out I suspect my liner notes will have to be abbreviated somehow. Based on how much I wrote for the first two episodic scores (only 10 minutes each), the final physical booklet for the 78(?) minute CD with 8-9 scores on it would probably be an impossible-to-fit 40-50 pages, ha!
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I prefer high-res downloads and longer PDFs over CDs anyway, so I'm in it step by step. I'll get this once it's regularly available and will be on stand-by for the next Kickstarter campaign.
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My apologies if this was already answered, but are there plans to make these available in a physical format at some point in the future?
Yes, Leigh and I discussed it early on when he first reached out to The Goldsmith Odyssey about Bar Mitzvah, and I convinced him a CD edition was worth doing, if it went beyond that one digital single. (Actually he said a minimum of four scores would have to be funded, for a CD to make sense length-wise.)
At this point given the success of four score recordings being funded, we want to get as many of Goldsmith's GE Theater scores recorded as possible -- I think it's safe to assume people would prefer a single packed 78 minute CD with 8-9 complete episodic scores on it, rather than having to buy a 38 minute Volume 1 and a 40 minute Volume 2, right? So if you're a physical media hold-out, you're likely going to have to wait another year or so. But I should reiterate that the downloads Leigh makes available to Kickstarter backers, or later for purchase (only 4 pounds each at https://www.lpfilmmusic.co.uk/shop) are still all in lossless CD quality, with a PDF of extensive liner notes*. Everything but the plastic!
*In fact, when the CD edition comes out I suspect my liner notes will have to be abbreviated somehow. Based on how much I wrote for the first two episodic scores (only 10 minutes each), the final physical booklet for the 78(?) minute CD with 8-9 scores on it would probably be an impossible-to-fit 40-50 pages, ha!
Yavar
I am, admittedly, late in the game on this Kickstarter series. This thread was on the periphery of my interest but I've taken more notice now, especially with its surprising success. While I have not backed any of this so far I think I'll jump in next time around. My contribution would likely be small, but I suppose it would help in some small way. This series is a noble effort and a great way to get that rare, early Goldsmith out there to the fans.
And yes, I tend to (mostly) be a physical media hold-out. But perhaps it's time to spread my old wings a bit and try out these digital releases. A couple of things factor into this decision. I'm curious about the lossless format. I wonder if my ears could detect a difference between lossless and cd quality. Regardless, I suppose lossless is as good as it gets. And secondly, I'd much rather get the full liner notes than an abbreviated version.
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I am, admittedly, late in the game on this Kickstarter series. This thread was on the periphery of my interest but I've taken more notice now, especially with its surprising success. While I have not backed any of this so far I think I'll jump in next time around. My contribution would likely be small, but I suppose it would help in some small way. This series is a noble effort and a great way to get that rare, early Goldsmith out there to the fans.
Welcome aboard! While you'll have to wait several months to get "Hitler's Secret" and "The Legend That Walks Like a Man", you can actually jump in right now on the first two superb scores Leigh recorded: "Sarah's Laughter" and "The Bar Mitzvah of Major Orlovsky". They are both available in lossless CD quality (with very detailed liner notes by yours truly) from his website for only £4 each:
https://www.lpfilmmusic.co.uk/shop
And yes, I tend to (mostly) be a physical media hold-out. But perhaps it's time to spread my old wings a bit and try out these digital releases. A couple of things factor into this decision. I'm curious about the lossless format. I wonder if my ears could detect a difference between lossless and cd quality.
No one's ears can detect a difference, because "lossless" (whether WAV, FLAC, Apple Lossless, or some other format) means CD quality. By definition it means that if you rip a CD to your computer in a lossless format, absolutely no data/sound quality is being lost. Anything less than CD quality, such as MP3 or Apple's AAC format, is considered "lossy". Personally my own ears even have a tough time telling the difference between 320 kpbs MP3s and lossless the vast majority of the time, but those are still considered lossy because they do leave out some of the information CDs contain.
Regardless, I suppose lossless is as good as it gets.
Well, there are high resolution lossless releases which in fact sound even *better* than CD quality (more like SACD or Blu-ray Audio quality). There are sites like HD Tracks and Qobuz which sell these. But I think there are very few people's ears who can tell the difference in quality (apart from some of them being in multi-channel rather than just stereo).
And secondly, I'd much rather get the full liner notes than an abbreviated version.
My main issue with a lot of digital releases is that they skip the liner notes, but thankfully Leigh's releases are not like that.
Yavar
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And yes, I tend to (mostly) be a physical media hold-out. But perhaps it's time to spread my old wings a bit and try out these digital releases. A couple of things factor into this decision. I'm curious about the lossless format. I wonder if my ears could detect a difference between lossless and cd quality. Regardless, I suppose lossless is as good as it gets. And secondly, I'd much rather get the full liner notes than an abbreviated version.
There is no difference in sound quality as far as data is concerned between a 16bit/44.1kHz CD and a the same music as a 16bit/44.1kHz FLAC/ALAC/WAV/AIFF file. It's literally the exact same data read, and if it's read by the same DAC and played by the same system, sound should be identical. FLAC/ALAC/WAV/AIFF can hold even higher resolution, like 24bit/48kHz and up or multichannel.
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Personally my own ears even have a difference telling between 320 kpbs MP3s and lossless the vast majority of the time
I assume you mean "have a touch time telling the difference between" or something.....but that's normal. Almost no one can (and most of the time people who claim they can, it's in their mind).
Of course, there's very good reasons to never use Mp3s and always use lossless that are unrelated to sound quality.
Differences between MP3 and high-res/lossless files can be easily heard. Even I could do it, and don't consider myself to have magic hearing. It's particularly noticeable when you play chamber or solo piano music.
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Yavar and Nicolai... thanks for the additional explanation regarding digital files, CD quality, lossless, high definition files, etc. I just always assumed that music on CD was not lossless, but perhaps I was confusing regular digital downloads versus the high def stuff you get on HD Tracks ad Qobuz.
And I plan on purchasing these Goldsmith releases and just letting go of any hangups I have about them not being in a physical format. Truth be told, like many others have expressed, I tend to let the cases collect dust on a shelf. I'm sure at the end of the day, not have a physical copy won't bother me nearly as much as I think it would.
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Leigh's sessions are just beginning. If you pledged at the right level, now's the time to go to the link he provided and see the recording sessions.
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I’m in! The first time anyone’s heard “Hitler’s Secret” performed by an orchestra in about six and a half decades!
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