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General Discussion: "Dundee and the Culhane" (Rose, Fried, Lowe, more)

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	Posted:	Jun 28, 2023 - 8:56 AM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

SEASON 1:

Short-lived western series from 1967 revolving around a well spoken and mild-mannered lawyer named [John Drummond] Dundee, and his cow polk assistant of sorts ("he's my law firm man"), [Dennis] Culhane.

The series features two catchy memorable theme music cues, one by David Rose and the other I am not certain about. The series opens and closes with the same theme, but somewhere abouts the middle it switches. I can't tell you if they experimented with a new theme or if episodes were aired out-of-order. I suspect they were aired out-of-order and the Rose theme was the new one, making Fried the composer who likely started the series.

The IMDb titles for the series are inaccurate. Not a single episode has the word "Brief" ending it. Episode titles are in quotation marks. The word "Brief" appears outside quotation marks, italicized, and underneath titles. It's part of the legal gimmick premise of the show.

Please Note: Because of the previous obscurity of the series (no full episode has ever appeared in all the years I have looked prior to this), I have recorded the full score to all episodes (even track job episodes). This audio is just being saved and put aside until such time as most or all the episodes appear, then I can work them to replace bad parts with cleaner parts found in track job episodes. So it could be a year or two before you ever see suites.

While I will not be covering track-job efforts like I have been doing for "The Virginian", I will link to the episodes where videos are available, so you can watch this obscure and un-purchasable/un-rentable series.

EDIT: According to the ctva.biz page for the series, it was aired out-of-order. I will include by each episode title the production number according to that website.

Attention readers: I have been using a system that is nothing more than a note to myself; for cues that I want to include in a suite one day, for now on I will denote them with ^ symbol. It has no special meaning to anyone else but myself. No, the lack of an up arrow symbol doesn't mean the cue is bad (it just may have too much SFX or FX for suite use or just isn't worth my time to edit and include). Hence forth this system will be in all future threads and pre-exiting threads that I go back to for missed episodes. Anything in ( ) are just notes to the arrow and you need not bother with that. The system does not mean that I will make a suite or that one has been made, it's simply for my own reference if and when I do decide to.

"The Turn the Other Cheek" (production #4)
Composer: Van Alexander (and conducted by)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r2L_jIR50A

This is presumably the only episode of the series Alexander scored.

Highlights:

1:49 in. Including ten or so seconds of cool percussion/bongo lead action music.

8:47 in.

13:14 in.

14:24 in.

18:22 in.

19:44 in.

21:29 in.

22:59 in.

35:43 in.

39:18 in.

40:22 in.

43:15 in.

That's nearly all the score. It's a good score. Not great.

21:14 in: music box-sounding arrangement of the series' main theme.

"I don't know anymore, Mark, which is the greater crime: to commit murder thy self, or to stand by and watch murder being done."


	Posted:	Jun 28, 2023 - 11:36 AM
	By:	CindyLover (Member)

Those episodes I've seen are lot easier to take than the star's daughter Juliet's sitcom!


	Posted:	Jun 28, 2023 - 12:25 PM
	By:	Yavar Moradi (Member)

"Brief" *must* be part of the title... otherwise, "The Turn the Other Cheek" makes no grammatical sense. What does the "The" refer to if not "Brief"?

Yavar


	Posted:	Jun 28, 2023 - 12:26 PM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

It's the confusing way they made the titles, as described.


	Posted:	Jun 28, 2023 - 12:39 PM
	By:	Yavar Moradi (Member)

Well it sounds to me like they just should have put the second quotation mark after "Brief", but gramatically speaking the word *must* be part of the titles, just like "Affair" is part of all those Man from UNCLE titles.

Yavar


	Posted:	Jun 28, 2023 - 12:45 PM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

The word "Affair" is in quotation marks on "The Man from U.N.C.L.E.", thus making it part of the title. It was an annoying gimmick for this western show and shouldn't have been done, or at least put inside the quotation marks.


	Posted:	Jun 29, 2023 - 8:14 AM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

Continuing SEASON 1:

There is only one half of an episode available for the next few updates, so apologies in advance.

NO LOAD FOUND [AT THIS TIME].

"The Vasquez" (1.2) (production #6)
"Music Composed and Conducted by": Mundell Lowe
https://ok.ru/video/6918458837707

First 5:14 seconds of the episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aohznx_L5Gs


	Posted:	Jun 30, 2023 - 7:42 AM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

Concluding SEASON 1:

There is only one half of an episode available for the next few updates, so apologies in advance.

NO LOAD FOUND [AT THIS TIME].

"The Cat in Bag" (1.3) (production #??? Possibly the pilot)
"Music Composed and Conducted by: David Rose
https://ok.ru/video/6918460017355

First half: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0GTiiorczI (poor quality 16mm black and white copy)
Second half: Not available.

Highlights:

As only half the episode is up, I am not going to waste my time covering it. I'll wait.


	Posted:	Jul 3, 2023 - 8:58 AM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

Concluding SEASON 1:

Five more updates before there are links available again.

NO LOAD FOUND [AT THIS TIME].
"The Murderer Stallion" (1.4) (production #9)
"Music Composed and Conducted by": Gerald Fried
https://ok.ru/video/6918461721291


	Posted:	Jul 4, 2023 - 8:33 AM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

Concluding SEASON 1:

Four more updates before there are links available again.

NO LOAD FOUND [AT THIS TIME].
"The Dead Man" (1.5) (production #2)
Composer: David Rose
https://ok.ru/video/6918462704331


	Posted:	Jul 5, 2023 - 4:21 PM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

Concluding SEASON 1:

Three more updates before there are links available again.

NO LOAD FOUND [AT THIS TIME].
"The Jubilee Raid" (1.6) (production #7)
Composer: Mundell Lowe
https://ok.ru/video/6918464211659

This is presumably the only episode of the series Lowe scored.


	Posted:	Jul 6, 2023 - 1:50 PM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

Concluding SEASON 1:

Two more updates before there are links available again.

NO LOAD FOUND [AT THIS TIME].
"The 1,000 Feet Deep" (1.7) (production #11)
Composer: David Rose
https://ok.ru/video/6918465456843


	Posted:	Jul 7, 2023 - 2:09 PM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

Continuing SEASON 1:

Final episode with no load up (at this time). There are links from hereonin.

NO LOAD FOUND [AT THIS TIME].
"Duelist" (1.8) (production #10)
Composer: David Rose
https://ok.ru/video/6918466898635


	Posted:	Jul 11, 2023 - 7:34 AM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

Continuing SEASON 1:

"The 3:10 to a Lynching" (production #8)
Composer: David Rose (and conducted by)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lBK3JsW3v4

Highlights:

1:03 in.

3:52 in.

4:44 in. Short dramatic outtro cue.

5:39 in. And the cue after the commercial break.

31:52 in.

34:09 in.

44:30 in.

46:25 in. Closing cue.


	Posted:	Jul 12, 2023 - 2:14 PM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

Continuing SEASON 1:

"The Death of a Warrior" (production #3)
Composer: David Rose (and conducted by)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqFd1iFUnqU

Highlights:

0:00 in.

0:24 in.

1:57 in.

3:05 in.

3:49 in.

5:16 in.

6:20 in.

7:38 in.

10:08 in. And the cue after the commercial break.

14:33 in. Short theme arrangement.

16:14 in.

17:25 in. Short theme arrangement.

19:23 in.

21:31 in.

23:56 in. Short outtro cue.

29:04 in.

30:18 in.

31:27 in. Short theme arrangement that begins with brass before being handed off to a harmonica.

32:48 in.

33:33 in. And the cue after the commercial break.

36:35 in.

37:43 in.

42:45 in. 43:24 is the good part.

42:27 in.

Final original score of the series. The small remainder are track-job efforts.

Indian Chief: "Justice frail like smoke, Dundee, if not move quickly, vanish before eyes."


	Posted:	Jul 13, 2023 - 7:27 AM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

Continuing SEASON 1:

The final episodes are all track-job efforts.

"The Thy Brother's Keeper" (1.11) (production #13)
TRACK JOB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO4J0XZ8oKg

"The Widow's Weeds" (production #12)
TRACK JOB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-BvK5x9elU

"The Catch-a-Thief" (production #5) (final episode)
TRACK JOB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFHCpWmSnwI


	Posted:	Jul 13, 2023 - 7:53 AM
	By:	Yavar Moradi (Member)

Here's hoping the earlier episodes with original scores turn up for you.

Yavar


	Posted:	Jul 13, 2023 - 7:58 AM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

Yeah, me too. It is possible -- the Youtuber who uploaded the episodes months ago, just one month ago uploaded yet another and I think he said he has more, in the comments section.


	Posted:	Jul 13, 2023 - 8:07 AM
	By:	Yavar Moradi (Member)

Now if only someone could upload all of The Legend of Jesse James. UCLA has a copy of every episode in their film and television library, but the show’s supposed to be really good and had multiple good composers working on it, including supposedly Jerry Goldsmith for one episode (but recently confirmed NOT “Things Don’t Just Happen” — the person who told you it was that episode was wrong; it was scored by Alexander Courage).

Yavar


	Posted:	Jul 17, 2023 - 8:02 AM
	By:	Justin Boggan (Member)

ADDITIONAL, UNCREDITED, STOCK MUSIC COMPOSERS:

No further composers were found on ASCAP or BMI, though ASCAP does list all the ones covered in this thread, but ads one entry for an "UNKNOWN" composer.

As usual, there has been, of course, no release of the show's scoring. No known promos either.

If I re-order the episodes into production order, with composer listed, here it what it looks like:

"The Cat in Bag" (1.3) (production #??? Possibly the pilot)
Composer: ?????

"The Dead Man's" (1.5) (production #2)
Composer: David Rose

"The Death of a Warrior" (production #3)
Composer: David Rose

"The Turn the Other Cheek" (production #4)
Composer: Van Alexander (and conducted by)

"The Catch-a-Thief" (production #5) (final episode)
TRACK JOB

"The Vasquez" (1.2) (production #6)
Composer: ?????

"The Jubilee Raid" (1.6) (production #7)
Composer: Mundell Lowe

"The 3:10 to a Lynching" (production #8)
Composer: David Rose (and conducted by)

"The Murderer Stallion" (1.4) (production #9)
Composer: Gerald Fried

"Duelist" (1.8) (production #10)
Composer: David Rose

"The 1,000 Feet Deep" (1.7) (production #11)
Composer: David Rose

"The Widow's Weeds" (production #12)
TRACK JOB

"The Thy Brother's Keeper" (1.11) (production #13)
TRACK JOB

Other Threads I Have Created or Commented in About TV Scores:

PLEASE NOTE: There are some shows left off, that I created as place holders to, for new TV series, incase I wanted to cover them later, but changed my mind.

"MacGyver": https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=2&threadID=36443&archive=1

"The Orville": https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=119661&forumID=1&archive=0

"The Rockford Files": https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=135198&forumID=1&archive=0

"Private Eye": https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=115755&forumID=1&archive=0 (technically completed)

"Cannon": https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=134150&forumID=1&archive=0 (complete)

"Barnaby Jones": https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=130392&forumID=1&archive=0 (complete)

"Dan August": https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=124310&forumID=1&archive=0 (complete)

"Markham": https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=130158&forumID=1&archive=0

"T.H.E. Cat": https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=134975&forumID=1&archive=0

"The Name of the Game": https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=134989&forumID=1&archive=0

"McCloud": https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=126978&forumID=1&archive=0

"Hart to Hart": https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=133995&forumID=1&archive=0